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oneof3k

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So Much For An IH Sabbatical....

My first Champagne Series Scout build (Never Enough Champagne) is as finished as it ever will be so on to the next one. The title of this build came to me recently in the middle of the night as I suspect some readers are tired of Champagne Scouts. Not me. I've named this Scout "Lil Sh!t" a few years ago but I've since forgotten exactly where that name came from. She too is a 1965 Scout 80 CS along with her two other sisters. I picked her up in western CO. Besides being remarkedly complete, original, and not molested, she sat inside the PO's shop for 20 years and under a tarp here in Evergreen for the past several years. Body is in good condition with somewhat less cancer then Barb had but I'll still have many months of metal work ahead of me. Interior is trashed as she had no top for at least the past several decades (the top in some of the pics is Barb's). The PO took her in as part of a trade and he immediately dropped the transmission and TC to access the clutch. He purchased a new clutch disc and then, for whatever reason, lost interest and so she sat until I took her off his hands. Here are some requisite pics.

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Wheels are 16" vs. the stock 15". But the size and stance is really growing on me so I might just keep those.

No idea if the Ramsey PTO winch works or not, but I'll have fun trying to find out!

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Better end caps then most, but far from perfect. And I've already sourced a nice rear step bumper to replace this POS.

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I'm not qualified to say for sure, but according to the window sticker, she came with a big old diesel engine!

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I'm still formulating the build's overall direction, but I plan on getting her running before the major restoration starts. While the Lil Sh!t will also stay largely original, I'm not going to go overboard like I did with Barb. For example, the missing Wittek tower clamps (for the water hoses) will stay missing. But I'm definitely going to add some modern safety features such as front disc brakes. And I've already decided that the wimpy 4" bullet side view mirror that came stock in CS Scouts will be replaced by a set of West Coast Jr. mirrors that are in my stash. Even though I was not impressed with the paint color when I first brought her home, I'm really digging the Apache Gold paint now, especially where the sun has not faded it. I'm fairly certain that 800bman will have a sh!t fit when I strip and repaint her.

I've been slowly collecting parts that I know I'll need for this build but will once again be relying on Phil Coonrod to help me out. I already have another dash pad and I know someone that makes embossed door panels and seat inserts so she can once again become a bonified CS Scout. Someday. Has anyone heard that before?
 
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mongocanfly

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the race is back on..!!!!!...im gonna try to win this time
ol 800man gonna have a bigger fit cause this could be goldiggers momma...
 

oneof3k

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Gold Diggers momma? Could be, but the Lil Sh!t grew up in the projects and Gold Digger came straight from the upper circles in CA so somewhere, there's a disconnect.

How much more of a head start do I need to give you for this next race Greg?
 

800bman

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I hope I live long enough to see this completed!
looks like an excellent corpse for you to resurrect….
 

mongocanfly

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("Could be, but the Lil Sh!t grew up in the projects ")
Well then ...maybe it's the baby momma of his current red headed stepchild then...
Haha...
 

J.J.

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("Could be, but the Lil Sh!t grew up in the projects ")
Well then ...maybe it's the baby momma of his current red headed stepchild then...
Haha...

I think what you are trying to say is something like this little ditty from Grandpa Jones... (at least maybe the above comment adjusted to Tennessee-speak) HAHAHAHA


JJ in TN
 

J.J.

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I like the fact that you two are back at each other as to whom will finish first! Ed is just a victim of his own success is all. Next thing you know, he will have that 20x40 shop to the shock and dismay of his neighbors HAHA

JJ in TN
 

J.J.

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So Much For An IH Sabbatical....

My first Champagne Series Scout build (Never Enough Champagne) is as finished as it ever will be so on to the next one. The title of this build came to me recently in the middle of the night as I suspect some readers are tired of Champagne Scouts. Not me. I've named this Scout "Lil Sh!t" a few years ago but I've since forgotten exactly where that name came from. She too is a 1965 Scout 80 CS along with her two other sisters. I picked her up in western CO. Besides being remarkedly complete, original, and not molested, she sat inside the PO's shop for 20 years and under a tarp here in Evergreen for the past several years. Body is in good condition with somewhat less cancer then Barb had but I'll still have many months of metal work ahead of me. Interior is trashed as she had no top for at least the past several decades (the top in some of the pics is Barb's). The PO took her in as part of a trade and he immediately dropped the transmission and TC to access the clutch. He purchased a new clutch disc and then, for whatever reason, lost interest and so she sat until I took her off his hands. Here are some requisite pics.

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Wheels are 16" vs. the stock 15". But the size and stance is really growing on me so I might just keep those.

No idea if the Ramsey PTO winch works or not, but I'll have fun trying to find out!

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Better end caps then most, but far from perfect. And I've already sourced a nice rear step bumper to replace this POS.

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I'm not qualified to say for sure, but according to the window sticker, she came with a big old diesel engine!

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I'm still formulating the build's overall direction, but I plan on getting her running before the major restoration starts. While the Lil Sh!t will also stay largely original, I'm not going to go overboard like I did with Barb. For example, the missing Wittek tower clamps (for the water hoses) will stay missing. But I'm definitely going to add some modern safety features such as front disc brakes. And I've already decided that the wimpy 4" bullet side view mirror that came stock in CS Scouts will be replaced by a set of West Coast Jr. mirrors that are in my stash. Even though I was not impressed with the paint color when I first brought her home, I'm really digging the Apache Gold paint now, especially where the sun has not faded it. I'm fairly certain that 800bman will have a sh!t fit when I strip and repaint her.

I've been slowly collecting parts that I know I'll need for this build but will once again be relying on Phil Coonrod to help me out. I already have another dash pad and I know someone that makes embossed door panels and seat inserts so she can once again become a bonified CS Scout. Someday. Has anyone heard that before?


UET was Mesa County, the valley of my birth.

JJ in TN
 

oneof3k

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Those all look like old pictures,bet he has not touched it yet.
OK, so I got caught with my pants down again. Almost.

It's been raining and cool so it's been tree felling time the past several days. About 40-45 trees are now lying on the ground and I still have at least 25 to go. All that means is I have an excuse for not bringing the Lil Sh!t into the garage and getting started in earnest. But before the chainsaw action, I did take off the DS door. The impetus was that I purchased a spare door last winter that was being stored inside the Storage Shed and I wanted to plan ahead and make some room (in the Storage Shed) for the eventual dismantling of the Lil Sh!t. The spare door was completely stripped of all innards. So I started to transfer everything over and found, drum roll plz, mostly trashed window regulator mounting legs and a broken rear window channel. First clue:

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Two of the four legs were completely separated from the regulator and two were hanging on by a wish. Luckily I still kinda remembered how to weld. This is what everyone should do to their regulators for preventative medicine.

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Even without a cleanup, it's now operating like new (for a 56 year old bitch anyways).

I always wanted to see how hard it would be to take off a door skin so this was the perfect time (and door) to practice on. It ended up being easy peasy; only 27 spot welds to drill out!

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Only drilled through the skin once, which for me was pretty good. Anyways, I was rather impressed with the engineering and the frugal nature of IH sorta paid off.

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Even more impressive was the undercoating that IH put on the bottom third of the skin for rust prevention. Too bad they didn't think to do the same on the other half. I wonder if any other door has this?

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Now I can't say for sure that IH did the undercoating, but I don't know how anyone could do the same thing after the door was assembled. Regardless, I now have an extra almost perfect door skin and a not-so-perfect shell.
 

oneof3k

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Another month goes by and precious little IH work to show.....

This for Mr. Jamison. The Lil Sh!t has moved, just not under her own power.

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And this for Mr. JJ. A Toyota saving another IH!

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And this for me so I can start to do some real work instead of lip service.

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I started with some boring tasks. Removed the transmission, TC, and the Ramsey winch from the bed and gave it a good ol JJ cleaning. Not two dustpans full of crud, but close.

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Now I didn't get anal with the cleaning yet as I want to get her running before the actually disassembly begins. Just clean enough not to install it backwards. I did learn something - the front half of the winch assembly is actually a Warn over-drive unit. Go figure.

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I noticed that the transmission cross brace was a bit deformed so I went out to my one and only spare part I had in stock so I can be ready. Someday.

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Removed the flywheel so I can take that and the pressure plate to get resurfaced and checked out. I sure wish I had an old timer that only charged a song and a dance for these services here locally.

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I purchased a pilot and throw-out bearing in the past so I'm set in that department.

Removed the seats and a few other items so I could evaluate the cancer. I think I'm ready for Jeff Jamison to start on the seat covers for these pristine seats next week!

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The bed had a rubber mat over it for at least the past 21 years while in storage, and probably a lot longer. After I removed the rubber mat, I just about soiled myself.

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Turns out most of that ugly stuff was just that; ugly stuff and not the metal. A few seconds with a scraper and a strip disc and I think I'll be fine. Some light pitting, but that is standard operating procedures in my mind.

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I'm going to need to replace the inner and outer rockers, the kick plates, and the PS floor. The usual stuff. Hoping that I can salvage 80% of the DS floor. TBD.

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Happy Labor Day all.
 

J.J.

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HAPPY LABOR DAY!!!!

I know, the bar is set pretty high for cleaning transmissions, I would guess that yours less nasty because Lil S**t knew it didn't need so much to try to survive as these poor old doors did. The rust looks very manageable from here. Speaking of Toyotas and clutches, the old geezers here did yell at me for picking up my stuff at the clutch shop the other day for driving the Camry there, he said it was boring HAHAHA. I said it was going to rain, I was driving all day literally, AND it still gets 28 mpg.

About those seats, wow.


JJ in TN
 

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Would be better if you just found an NOS rear seat to install and sell your janky one to make up the difference!
 
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