rear axle id help

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  1. lsparks

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    Thanks for the information. The front and rear axle in the 63 scout bot have tags that say 4.27 and the 47-11 but don't know what the 47-11 means. Here are pictures of the numbers and locations I do not see any - number anywhere. These should be straight forward rebuild then if they are plain DANA 27s and i know the years. is there any doc that might show the part numbers that are needed?

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    divide 47 by 11 and that gives you the ratio, 4.27
     
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    Thanks for the pics. Very helpful. 47-11 is the ring gear teeth and the pinion teeth. 47/11= 4.27:1.

    Disregard what you read before and what I just deleted. I misread two number.
    4303A5 2502 The "2502" is a standard early D27 number. The first group, the date codes, 4303A5 are April 30, 1963, Plant A, shift 5. I must be brain dead this morning and half blind. The method of stamping was a little unusual too. They usually have gaps between the date code and the BOM number. A nube on the line, perhaps?
     
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    Thanks everyone for the help. Much appreciated.
     
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    Hate to dig up an old thread but i am a little confused about the rear axle my scout 80/800 has....
    It says 44 with 4.27 gears but the BOM doesnt seem to match that. Can anyone help me figure out what year this is and if its a decent 44?
    Housing shows 3 22 7A3 602962 2
     

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    the "3 22 7A3" indicated the axle was built by Spicer March 22, 1967. The 602962-2 indicated a 1967-68 Scout 800 Dana 44 with 4.27 ratios and a Powr-Lok. It would be a tapered axle model which is Ok but not optimal. The one piece flanged axle, introduced for 1969 are stronger.
     
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    Thanks guys! I plan to run 35" tires and a v8 so i think i will go with my original plan of scout 2 axles.
     
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    I realize this is an old thread, however, just curious if the 27 or 27/30 hybrids were stamped like the 44s . Could not find the big embossed numbers. My vin in research is crazy too. In doing the check, it says its a stepside pickup, yet the plate says right on it 800B. We refer to it as the devil as the plate has a 666 in ite number sequence. It is too bad all of the companies out there did not follow the chris craft model for record preservation.
     
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    Someone more experienced here might recognize the 666 plate numbers. Unfortunately I do not. Till then, please post some quality, well light cell phone pics.
     
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    What is the entire VIN? "666" can be part of any sequential number series, so would mean little in and of itself. I can give you a pretty good read on the entire VIN and you can order the Line Setting Ticket from the Wisconsin Historical Society.

    The axle tubes will be stamped to the right of the differential housing as you face the cover. Small numbers and you may have to sand the tube to bring them out. I can decode them as I did above in one of the previous posts.
     
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    okay the axle code, if I am reading it right is 777 003 603121 3, the tage on the differential says 41-1 3 73
    the full devil vin is 882825g426662, the frame matches the vin tag from the g on. The plate also says 800b, 180 net hp @ 440, and 4200 lbs.
    I haven't found the numbers on the front axle yet, but the wasps have made a condo out of this thing.
     
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    The axle code as you listed it doesn't make sense. The most likely read is 7-27-0C3, for 7/27/70, a date that makes sense for a '71 MY 800B (C3 is shift code) & "2" is often misread as "7" so it also could be "22" instead of "77." The "603121-3" is the BOM (Bill of Materials) for a Dana 44 rear axle with an open diff and 3.73:1 ratio, which would be right for a V8 Scout.

    G426662 would have been built in October of 1970 as a '71 Model year 800B. The Model Prefix, 882825, decodes to an 800B Cab Top, most likely with a V8.
     
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    Thanks so much ...the 22 77thing is very possible as they are very tiny, very rusty and hard to read. I actually took a picture with my phone and enlarged it to read it. It does have a v8 in it.
     
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    after more work with the sander it is an oc3 however the first part is 7 17, so that would be july 17? Alsowhere is the proper location for the vin plate. It has the frame numbers where they belong, on the rear of driver side door jamb (not on the door but on the body) it has the original sticker that has a matching number, but the plate is in hand. Holes on the firewall don't seem to match up. I read it should be on passenger door but there doesn't seem to be a place big enough for it.
     
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    Before the windshield washer bottle was placed on the firewall to the right and above the steering column, I understand the Serial Number plate was screwed on there. When the bottle was added, the plate was moved to the driver's door jamb. Maybe I'm just forgetful, but don't recall any "original sticker" other than that small aluminum SN plate. Pictures?

    Did you know that on really old equipment, such 'data plates' used to be made of Genuine Brass? Many early vehicles had porcelain-enamel radiator badges like This one once was:

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    First post here, been lurking awhile as I’ve gained lots of knowledge on all things scout.

    Looking for some info on my front axle. It appears the pumpkin is stamped with the “27” leading me to believe I have a front Dana 27 axle. However, after looking at the BOM and date I’m no longer certain what it is. I’m hoping it’s a Dana 30 or perhaps the hybrid 27/30. Please help me decode these numbers: 603 143 4 and 10 28 9 A5. After looking through the attached Dana build sheet the closest I was able to find was a BOM of 603 144 which shows a Dana 30 from model year 1969 1/2.

    Any help would be appreciated. Once I determine what exactly I have I intend on overhauling the axle so I’d also need to figure out what parts to order (27 vs 30)?


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    If its got the raised cast # 27 on the housing then thats what it is. Wasn't any on D-30's.only front axles were D-30. No rears. Only 27 or 44
     
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    Figured as much. Thanks
     

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