Project Fully Involved - 1969 IH 1300D Foundry Pump Truck

[mjmck]

I'll start out by first addressing that the title does not refer to my stage in life, as I am about 30 years short of that goal. With the back-story on this truck you can understand where the thread name originated. Below you will find the previous newb' thread I started getting us to this moment in time. See attached link below:
http://www.binderplanet.com/forums/index.php?threads/inquiring-about-some-red-iron.143090/
Over the next winter months (and into the spring) I will be going through the truck bringing it back to at a minimum road-worthy state, then allowing other projects to occur as its driven. My plan is to take this truck to the Syracuse Nationals (put on by the Right Coast, Inc.) July 2020. The point of this build is to leave the truck just as outfitted and as factory correct as possible (with understanding the the pump body and other outfits were not done at the IH factory). In the short term I will be performing the following:

• Complete brake job;
• Fluid changes;
• Front closed-knuckle seals;
• A temporary set of tires (until I can afford the period correct gumbos); and
• Complete tune up.

I just purchased my re-print CTS-2312 Service Manual and will be purchasing the MT-124 Part Catalog as well as a Line Setting Ticket to help me get through the above mentioned work. This will be a bit different for me as I am used to working on vehicles (I have a 89' Mustang) where parts are plentiful. It sounds like many of the parts removed from this truck will need to be rebuilt for replacement. I have obtained a spot for winter storage with heat allowing me to do this work. Additional updates will be posted as soon as I get the truck into the winter storage unit.

 

[mjmck]

First purchase for the truck came in Saturday:

 

[Jeff Jamison]

It will have most of the info you need,but thats a travelall manual and not a pickup.small differences in wireing .

 

[stroker3]

Being a 1300, probably a little more as far as the front axle goes etc.

 

[mjmck]

I definitely struggled trying to find the correct one (seeing CTS-2300's online). What other manuals are there? This seemed to be the only other one listing pickups which is why I purchased.

I now see on Binderbooks that the cover page doesn't say Travelall on their CTS-2312, but because mine said & pickups is why I purchased. A bit mis-leading IMO. This set was purchased from Super Scout Specialists

 

[stroker3]

. Didn't notice the pickup reference. Have you skimmed through to see if it lists the 1300?

This seemed to be the only other one listing pickups that why I purchased.

 

[mjmck]

. Didn't notice the pickup reference. Have you skimmed through to see if it lists the 1300?

I haven't really dug into anything yet (as I am awaiting a LST purchase). A quick skim shows mostly Travelall references (4x2 & 4x4), however under the circuit diagrams 1000-1500D trucks are listed out separately. None of the other sections really do that though? Hope this has everything I will encounter (at least up front).

I dug into the medium and heavy duty and that was all more Loadstar trucks, thus why I went with this manual. It seems like there are many different versions of the same CTS # service manual. I almost pulled the trigger on a 2300 (which I hear is a more inclusive manual) but the seller just couldn't show me what I was looking for.

 

[mjmck]

Spent some lunch time today attempting to pressure wash the bulk areas of caked on grease. Mostly concentrated on the axles and frame. Found out I am leaking fuel profusely from the carburetor. That will need attention sooner rather than later.

 

[MrKenmore]

Is it coming from the fuel line inlet I see? Inverted flare fittings are great when they seat correctly but can be so pesky when they don't. It may be that transition fitting I think it connects to. Looking good.

 

[mjmck]

Is it coming from the fuel line inlet I see? Inverted flare fittings are great when they seat correctly but can be so pesky when they don't. It may be that transition fitting I think it connects to. Looking good.

I grasped it with my fingers and tried to turn it but no avail. Still may require a wrench. I can see bubbles when the truck is running coming from low on the bowl where the accelerator thing (haha I'm an efi guy) comes out on the side. I think with running it the fan blew some of the fuel upwards. But it could still be leaking. I will definitely check, thanks for the pointer!

 

[stroker3]

I can see bubbles when the truck is running coming from low on the bowl where the accelerator thing

Probably the gasket(s) have dried out. There's one with the pump as well as the bowl. "Sometimes" they'll swell enough and kinda fix themselves but it's very easy to do it the right way and just replace them.

 

[mjmck]

Got some info off the carb for a rebuild. A little hesitant on ordering the kit as I am looking for a USA build IHC (gasket w/heat shield) kit. A lot look very generic. Any recommendations? Also what version 2300 is this? Assuming a plain 2300 due to the manual choke per my Service Manual.

 

[mjmck]

Just had a potential big win, some of the sheet may appear missing though. It was located under the seat on the floor...

Is there any way I can tell the year form this. My Company has been listing the truck as a 69 (due to the October 69 sticker in the door jamb). I really think it is a 70.

 

[patrick r]

Have you ordered the LST? It will have more info than you have found.
I did notice that your current tires are much bigger than the stock ones were.


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[mjmck]

Have you ordered the LST? It will have more info than you have found.
I did notice that your current tires are much bigger than the stock ones were.


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I have not ordered a copy of the LST yet (it is on my list along with parts manual MT-124).
Yes, the tires on this truck were definitely outfitted at the Fire Apparatus Facility (Thibault). The steel wheels do not have IH stamps as I have seen in pics cruising Google. These tires have a contact patch of 1 foot so they are definitely an aftermarket setup.

Got a little more run time on the truck, it is very cold blooded right now. Dies when trying to shift from 1st to 2nd when cold. It idles but with misfires. In dire need of love this winter.

 

[patrick r]

If I’m interpreting it correctly 800x16.5 (as long as that’s the tire not the wheel)
It sounds like a tune up is needed for starters.


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[stroker3]

If I’m interpreting it correctly 800x16.5 (as long as that’s the tire not the wheel)

That's usually the tire size,
Looks like it came with just a 37 amp alternator too.

 

[mjmck]

I guess we will start out with an easy item (we are awaiting on another colleague to bring in a boat for winter storage then my truck will go in-front of it). Plan is to stop at a hardware store and pick up a new grub/worm screw for the manual choke knob. I was worried that it was gone but another item I luckily found underneath the seat. Looks like the original screw was lost and they installed a flat head, hopefully the threads are still OEM or I may need to drill and re-tap.

 

[mjmck]

Lesson learned, nothing is easy. The attachment was totally different that I thought. Of course stripped the threads now. On the hunt for a used replacement.

 

[Jeff Jamison]

Call some of the light line dealers,scouts also used that for the hood release for a few years.If no luck I probably have a spare somewhere.