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Family-style Cage

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NTX_Brian

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I wanted to see if you still offer the family-style cage for the Scout II's?
If so, is there a price difference between it and what is posted on the web-store?

Edit: Just saw the "Evo" cage pics. Is that avail in kit form? Is it compatible with factory rear seat?


Thanks,

Brian
 

Damian Grihalva

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Yes we do offer the family cage kits. Yes we can make you a cage similar to the EVO build. Please email me your number or call and we'll get one off to you.
 

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christopher

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that is one sexy cage!!!! good stuff, i sent you a pm about it, gotta say that thing would look great in my scout
 

scouting II's

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I am diggin the family cage. When running with the lid on can you use the stock interior plastic molding that goes around the back windows or do they need to be left out? With the show bar I am using now they just barely fit between th hood and the show bar. I will be driving to home from Texas in a couple of months and was thinking of swinging by. Do these things come welded together or is it something I have to do upon installing???
 

Damian Grihalva

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I am diggin the family cage. When running with the lid on can you use the stock interior plastic molding that goes around the back windows or do they need to be left out?
They can be put back in with some effort. Sometimes, you also have to trim or remove the front sections (from above the door windows) as the kit can make that area extremely tight.

Do these things come welded together or is it something I have to do upon installing???
They are unwelded.
 

NVScouter

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Do you offer any waranty on your cages? I just bought a ScoutII with one of your cages and the front hoop bends are too steep, and the legs too short. Its a widomaker for sure, my forhead is about 12" from the crossbar with the seats almost all the way back
 

dkterra

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He went out of business and hasn't made cages for acouple of years.
They are almost all custom fit in some way, your best bet is to either rework it or find a place to get you some new legs and different style cross bar.
 

Damian Grihalva

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Darrell is right, I'm no longer the owner of D&C. Call Eric and see what he can do for you.

That said, D&C has always stood behind its product. But since it sounds like someone messed up the installation, and you were not the buyer, please be understanding.
:rockon:
 

NVScouter

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Darrell is right, I'm no longer the owner of D&C. Call Eric and see what he can do for you.

That said, D&C has always stood behind its product. But since it sounds like someone messed up the installation, and you were not the buyer, please be understanding.
:rockon:

Sorry I've been in custom rockcrawler world for the last few years. Getting back into family style wheeling I didnt know you sold the business.

I wouldnt say the install was messed up. I've built two cages from raw DOM and it always amazes me how springy that stuff is. Some of these bends look like over corrections for that spring back and most of the tube was too short. I spoke with the owner that put it in and he didnt cut any tube shorter, just fit and welded it. So its a mini cage fully with 5" from the dash about 8" from the doors, 3" roof clearance, and the front crossbar sits a forhead level. Its a dual CB bar cage so the crossbar can only go where the CB bars end.

I'll just cut it out and replace whats needed and correct the angles. I dont think it would be fair to D&C's new owner to dump it on him.

Thank you,

Jon
 

Damian Grihalva

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Sorry I've been in custom rockcrawler world for the last few years. Getting back into family style wheeling I didnt know you sold the business.

I wouldnt say the install was messed up. I've built two cages from raw DOM and it always amazes me how springy that stuff is. Some of these bends look like over corrections for that spring back and most of the tube was too short. I spoke with the owner that put it in and he didnt cut any tube shorter, just fit and welded it. So its a mini cage fully with 5" from the dash about 8" from the doors, 3" roof clearance, and the front crossbar sits a forhead level. Its a dual CB bar cage so the crossbar can only go where the CB bars end.

I'll just cut it out and replace whats needed and correct the angles. I dont think it would be fair to D&C's new owner to dump it on him.

Thank you,

Jon
5" from the dash? 3" of roof clearance? 8" of from the doors? That is NOT one of my cages, and if it 'was' it was modified. Spring back on my bender is 3-4 degrees, and it compensated for, not up to and over a HALF a foot. I appreciate you posting that, makes me feel better.
 

Russ McLean

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5" from the dash? 3" of roof clearance? 8" of from the doors? That is NOT one of my cages, and if it 'was' it was modified. Spring back on my bender is 3-4 degrees, and it compensated for, not up to and over a HALF a foot...
We have a D&C cage in our Scout - I can verify that it fitted well.

5" from the dash? >>> Actually, the glove compartment door only opens part way.

3" of roof clearance? >>> The roll bar padding touches the roof by the door opening - we had to wrap the roll bar padding with the roof off.

8" of from the doors? >>> The window crank was hitting the roll bar padding - I installed electric windows.

Russ McLean
 

NVScouter

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I guess the D&C recipt I have is a forgery and my friend Darrel is a lyer then.

This isnt the first D&C bunk cage I've seen either from one of the mail order kits. I know you went though some bad times but please dont bash your former customers.
 

Damian Grihalva

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I guess the D&C recipt I have is a forgery and my friend Darrel is a lyer then.

This isnt the first D&C bunk cage I've seen either from one of the mail order kits. I know you went though some bad times but please dont bash your former customers.

EXCUSE ME?

1) I didn't say anything about any of my former customers. I didn't call your buddy a lyer, or bash him in any way. Heck, off-hand, I don't even know who your talking about. I wasn't there, nor were you apparently, when it was installed, and neither of us can call him dishonest NOR ARE WE TRYING TO.

2) I have always stood behind my product. Eric is of the same mind. If there was a problem with ANY of my products, I took care of it, and so will Eric ~ that's why let him take it over.

So I'll say it again, since spelling it out for you wasn't enough the first time. IF it is one of mine, IT WAS MODIFIED. ALL my cages have been built to the same standard, from the same build sheet, and on the same bender, for nearly a decade. What you have described, isn't a mis-bend ~ it isn't a short-trim. Its TOTALLY SCREWED. Almost a FOOT from doors? 3" from the roof? or half a foot from the dash? These assertions are not simple mistakes and or mis-cuts ~ and to yield the results you are claiming would require deliberate action. Either from me or your friend.

When we built cages, we built them in bundles of 2-6 sets . ALL tubes were lined up and set next to each other to make sure all the tubes were bent exactly the same. (see the below picture, these tubes were set on the Racer build, so they aren't lined up like they normally are ~ but its a picture I could find).

"Haters" is what the kids call them these days. People who are content with nothing short of causing reviling and derision among a community of otherwise friendly folks. Even when they are meet with positive 'lets fix this' attitude ~ they refuse ~ as if their only goal was to stir trouble for no apparent reason. Its crap-claims and hate'n people that have and WILL KILL every innovative spirit among us.
 
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