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Colonel Mustard - 1975 IH Travelall 150

2021 Arizona International Harvester Rendezvous

Chris Cooper

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It's official.........................
My AC does not blow cold air! LOL. It was recharged by the PO with R-134 and we know how that works with older systems! All my lines are a mess as well. Lots of segmented hoses and clamps. Lots of failure points. Need to do the patented JJ AC rehab.

Nuts, Matthew— that sucks.
 

MrKenmore

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For all the good buddies..........
MrsKenmore and I are both licensed ham radio operators and I love anything radio (which includes CB). In my travels with the Terra over the years (and other vehicles),, I love to have a CB in the trucks. Plus it looks so period correct. I gave a sneak peek of my antenna idea way back but here is an update. The mount is really for a 2000-2007 Chevrolet full size truck. Manufacturer is NCG. Model number is SUANTPF. It is an NMO style mount which allows for a lot of antenna interchange. It bolts onto the body using the fender bolt in the cowl access panel.
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View from the inside.
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Antenna removed here with a cap. I had two of the cowl access panels and painted both know I was going to do this. So even though I made a discrete hole with a rubber grommet you see below, I have a perfect one if I want to go back.
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The actual CB radio should be coming the end of this week.
 
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Lars-S

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or all the good buddies..........
MrsKenmore and I are both licensed ham radio operators and I love anything radio (which includes CB).
A friend and one of our best customers is / has been a big HAM buff since forever. He has quite a collection of tube units antennaes etc etc.. I'll share this with him.. I still have a small CB we always used on the trail before everyone couldn't live without cell phones..

PS.. He corrected me that CB is not HAM and HAM is not bacon lol
 
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MrKenmore

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I finally got the new mechanical temp gauge in. Old Stewart Warner is out.
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New three pod 2 1/8" gauge pod.
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I rearranged the location of the heater core hose off the stat housing to the #8 cylinder just like the Scout II.
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Where the heater core hose used to be now has the Autometer temp probe.
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I did buy the extended Autometer adapter for the temp probe. The one that came with the gauge put the probe up against the cast inside of the t stat housing. I did have to cut the new one done and thread it so the probe would get into the path of the coolant.
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I removed the Stewart Warner temp probe from the stock location of the temp probe. So I installed a replacement stock sensor which is Standard Motor products TS52.
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Here is the goofy Packard 56 terminal you need to land on the sensor.
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MrKenmore

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So I did notice the engine was running a little toasty. Maybe this is OK. The stat is a 195 degree Robertshaw. The previous gauge showed 195 degrees pretty steady. But that was in the location of the stock sensor.
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What does everyone think? Go to a 180 degree Robertshaw? It doesn't appear to go over 208 degrees per the mechanical gauge.
 

jeff campbell

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So I did notice the engine was running a little toasty. Maybe this is OK. The stat is a 195 degree Robertshaw. The previous gauge showed 195 degrees pretty steady. But that was in the location of the stock sensor.
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What does everyone think? Go to a 180 degree Robertshaw? It doesn't appear to go over 208 degrees per the mechanical gauge.
What's the temp while driving ? That's not a bad temp at all
 

Lars-S

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What's the temp while driving ?
And does it cycle back and hold at this when stopped? Given its location and the size of the engine this may not be a bad reading.

You can drop to the 180 also another option, which I normally do regardless of ratings, is drill a small 1/8 hole in thermostat flange just beyond the plunger, between its outer edge and the gasket/block area.
 

RinTX

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I wonder if you could be chasing something that isn’t really a problem. What’s the accuracy of the calibration of the new gauge?
 

J.J.

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What kind of shape is your radiator in and are you running a shroud?

My '74 200 barely gets out of C, even as I did last week pulling a Terra on a trailer at 98 outside.

JJ in TN
 

MrKenmore

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Lars-S-
It fluctuates a little with driving conditions. That pic is the hottest. When I am cruising along, it seemed to be a little over 200.

RinTX-
You could be right! I am not sure of the calibration of the new gauge. I do know the old Stewart Warner gauge show just below 200 pretty reliably. The probe location for it was different though. Now I have the stock (new) sender in the proper location where the old Stewart Warner probe used to be and the Autometer probe in the t stat housing.

J.J.-
I do have a shroud (what is left of it LOL)! Radiator condition relatively unknown. Looks all there. I haven't delved into it much. What stat do you have? 180? 195?
 

Lars-S

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I do have a shroud (what is left of it LOL)! Radiator condition relatively unknown. Looks all there. I haven't delved into it much. What stat do you have? 180? 195?
Sounds like a new rad and primo shroud or addition of an electric fan could drop you down to your current thermostat setting (or lower) but nothing dangerous about runnig these temps.. The thermostat rating matters more in the winter so it heats up quickly and helps keep it hot during iceberg days so you have heat inside. Once they hit temp, which in the summer or under heavy loads they do quickly, they really shouldn't impact cooling.. In fact totally removing them is a bad idea as they help restrict flow so the cooling system works efficiently ( ah with a good shroud and clean core/fins lol). That 1/8 hole I add just lets them flow a little prior to their opening up and flow a tad more once they are fully open.
 

Chris Cooper

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That temp difference could be due to the different location of the sending unit where perhaps the coolant doesn't circulate as much and builds more heat.
 

Mrs Kenmore

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So MrKenmore and I are in the home stretch in getting things completed for our first long haul trip to both Harvester Homecoming and Nationals. One thing I am missing is one headliner bow clip. Anyone out there have one for me? Just need one 😊
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Lars-S

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So MrKenmore and I are in the home stretch in getting things completed for our first long haul trip to both Harvester Homecoming and Nationals.
So JEALOUS .. and of course happy for you both.. not only a driveable but a drive to big IH events..
I am worried I won't even be able to drive my Scout into the front grounds for our foundations Classic Car & Truck/ 4x4 show in end of August.. I need to get my butt in gear. Worse case, which really isn't bad per se, is will just have our CJ all cleaned up and in it..

Hope you can get that 1 headliner bow clip? Say will one out of a Scout work ,, does my Scout even have them?


Sun Edit: just checked and looks like Scout doesn't have bows.. sorry thought I could send you one quick as your only 1 state over..
 
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MrKenmore

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I got the main 21 gallon gas tank lined by the local radiator / gas tank shop. $350 later and I am in business. These are NY prices remember!!! Not the cheap Bowling Green, KY shop that would have charged me $75 LOL!! Anyway, they are a pretty nice operation. Their main business is wrenching on old classic cars for the area. Not a newer car to be found! I had a leak on the bottom and also needed ports added for the fuel vapor system. Remember my Travelall did not come with any emissions devices. The tank did not have the 5/16" ports on the top.
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The 3/8" NPT ports are from McMaster-Carr which I turned over to the shop to be installed. I added an additional port in the even I want to have a return port for fuel injection.
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He also gave me a drain on the bottom.
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All sealed up! Inside pic. Looks like a fruit roll up.
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And here is the fuel vapor separator Jeff Campbell hooked me up with!
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Tank guy recommended using this for the threads as well as the sender/pickup.
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Here is the gas tank layout from the manual.
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I will need a new fuel tank cap which I believe is a Stant 10810. IH part number for the emission version is 413013C1.
 

Lars-S

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Yes the Form-A-Gasket #3 is good against fuel and is technically none hardening.. Though after a while it takes me large vise grips and some heavy duty oomph to loosen the cap to use it on another project after some time has set in.. The gloss over hardening though helps keep stuff from sticking to it once its set up a bit - a plus and also a vibration loosening deterrent.
 
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