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1973 Travelall 1010 - Family Cruiser Build.

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java230

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Well I have been waffling around looking for a new project. Browsing of the FB marketplace lead me to the perfect candidate. Kinda funky, somewhat unusual, and someone's project that stalled. Its pretty darn rust free, one little patch on the drivers side rear fender, above the rear window and a little at the windshield. Original 392 is in it.

Here is how it was listed.
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Bare metal makes it easy to spot rusty spots. Not bad at all.
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Now the fun stuff. Air ride! The big parts of the install is pretty much done, needs a bit of reinforcing here and there and nut and bolt everything. And final plumb the air side of things.
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Panhard bracket needs reinforcing.
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Delivery day! Of course it has to pour rain.... On my bare metal!
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Its all pretty straight except this one area.... Someone tagged the passenger door and fender, probably early 80's as I found some brass filler..... But I think I may want a new door and fender.
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Now the fun part, everything that can be taken apart has been..... And not by me. Which makes it a puzzle..... Binder books already has my money. This is going to be a big project! Im debating between doing a Holley EFI drop on vs the GM TBI units. Thoughts? Hoping I can salvage the front tank to use. Its a little rattely but need to bore scope it to see how bad. Rear is super crusty. I can live with 19 gallons I think. I am not finding much that would fit in the rear floor area, its only 28"x21" ish
 

1975IH200

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Looks like a fun project and I wish you luck.

As for fuel injection, Hamilton Fuel Injection makes a "bolt on" system based on GM FI components, for the IH engines.
He is a Vendor here and has a Fuel Injection forum here as well. Check him out before you decide which way to go on FI.

Rear tank in between Fram rails: I have seen people use Suburban/Blazer rear tanks in this position on Travelalls.
 

java230

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Looks like a fun project and I wish you luck.

As for fuel injection, Hamilton Fuel Injection makes a "bolt on" system based on GM FI components, for the IH engines.
He is a Vendor here and has a Fuel Injection forum here as well. Check him out before you decide which way to go on FI.

Rear tank in between Fram rails: I have seen people use Suburban/Blazer rear tanks in this position on Travelalls.

Yes sorry I should have been more clear. Debating between Hamilton and Holley. Pros to Holley is it could be swapped to a 350 in the future, and it can handle turbo's where the GM unit I dont believe will take positive manifold pressure well. Pros to Hamilton is bolt on and the dizzy is done.

Thanks for the tank tip! I will go take a peek. I was googling allllll night last night.
 

java230

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factory front tank is only 16 gallons,392 on the highway will get between 10 to 14 mpg.
Yeah I figured 10 at best. It's going to be a cruiser, don't need huge range....but 20 would be nice. I popped the sending unit and it's pretty crusty. Ugh.
 

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mongocanfly

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mmmhhpphhh...gas tank looks familiar on the inside...
that fender and door wouldn't be a bad fix..probably easier to fix than finding good replacements
 

java230

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mmmhhpphhh...gas tank looks familiar on the inside...
that fender and door wouldn't be a bad fix..probably easier to fix than finding good replacements
Yeah tanks are my sticking point at the moment.....

Borrowing a stud welder/puller from a co worker, will give the door a try. Did I mention I have never really done any body work?

Also I am debating deleting all the trim that surrounded the wood grain, 62 holes per side to weld up.....
 

java230

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Any more thoughts on Hamilton vs Holley?

Got it up on jackstands, fun fact, you have to air it all the way up to get a jack under it.....
Is there normally no crossmember at the back of the trans?
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Hmmmm guess I get to do some brake lines. And I think the others are Trans cooler.
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Box O window seals.
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Front tank is pretty crusty.
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Popped the rotors off, drivers side has a pretty good groove. Pass is nice. Debating on going Ford rotors or not.
Getting a shock back on the front is going to be interesting.
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STR8LINE

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Hey Java230. Cool ride. In my opinion I would keep the trim. If you weld up the holes that’s a lot of real estate that’s got to be worked or it’s going to show. Depending on your bodywork ability. The trim is much more forgiving and a lot less work. And personally I like the trim.


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java230

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You want a trans cross member.
Yeah it seemed it was missing :D I can fab one up easily it seems.

Hey Java230. Cool ride. In my opinion I would keep the trim. If you weld up the holes that’s a lot of real estate that’s got to be worked or it’s going to show. Depending on your bodywork ability. The trim is much more forgiving and a lot less work. And personally I like the trim.

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Thanks! If I keep it I will likely black it out... I am torn, I dont know that I really want to keep it, but I have nearly zero body work experience. Welding is no prob, but I see a lot of mud and sanding....
 

Jeff Jamison

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No on the rear tranny crossmember,they never had one,there are mounts on both sides on the front of the tranny.Your shocks are going to be interesting with the air bags in the way,yes your tranny lines are in that pile of stuff,yes on Hamilton when you can afford it.On the fuel tank when hunting make sure of the ohm rating to make sure it will work with the gauge.On the door try a portapower inside the door.leave the trim.
 

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Jeff is right ....for some reason I was thinking LS /trans swap (don't know why)...when I saw the rear pad I was thinking rear x-member
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java230

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No on the rear tranny crossmember,they never had one,there are mounts on both sides on the front of the tranny.Your shocks are going to be interesting with the air bags in the way,yes your tranny lines are in that pile of stuff,yes on Hamilton when you can afford it.On the fuel tank when hunting make sure of the ohm rating to make sure it will work with the gauge.On the door try a portapower inside the door.leave the trim.

Thanks!

Hamilton over the Holley? Why?

I think I can sneak the shocks in behind the lower A arm. Should work out I think!

May make new trans lines.... We will see. Tearing the front sheet metal off now.
 

mongocanfly

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x2..I would skip on the holley as well...there is more than you care to read about holley issues..just google it..and all the made in china holley stuff is a turnoff
and Hamilton is part of this site...support your local IH nut!!!!!
 

Jeff Jamison

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holley breaks,you are waiting on parts,hamilton either parts store,junk yard(Walmart parking lot:laugh:) you can get parts and back on the road fast.
 

java230

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Front end is down to inner fenders and rad support. Pulled the AC parts for now, I am thinking of retrofitting more modern stuff in.

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Found a bit of rot at the battery tray. Cut and will patch it up.

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A little more on the pass side of the windshield frame also.

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Mocked up shocks, should be able to sneak one in here easily. Water bottle for scale :D A 10" eye to eye shock is just right.

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Front at full bump

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The bad fender....

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MJlogan88

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Yeah tanks are my sticking point at the moment.....
You seem to have some good fab skills, maybe consider a '80s suburban tank between the frame rails aft of the rear axle. You can check my build thread for how I did this on my '70 travelall with a 31 gal suburban tank. They come in a 26 ish gallon size too if you don't need as much capacity. Bonus is since GM went to EFI in '87 you have a drop in factory pump/sending unit. The tanks are relatively cheap on Rock Auto
 
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