1964 C1100 Travelall

[bdgn01]

No idea on the tubular tire carrier beyond a guess that it was mounted on the rear bumper???

That definitely sounds right. This truck has a jumbo-beefy rear bumper with a series of bolts that go through the channel—it would make sense that one or more of them held a spare tire carrier of some kind. Wish I had a picture of that!

EDIT: The inside spare location was probably not meant to be used. Along with what the LST say's about the tire carrier,the tag pictured should be in the tire well They don't usually disappear.
The tire well can get blocked off with storage boxes so they need to move that makes sense. In the ambulance , a permanent storage box with a cot/stretcher on top covered the spare tire well.

That makes total sense! barn doors and an outside tire carrier. I've also found two more plugged holes in the roof, probably for lights or another siren.

 

[bdgn01]

So, some updates: We still haven't gotten her started, but narrowed the issue down to the original distributor, which isn't throwing any spark to the plugs. I've got a new HEI distributor on order from IHPA due to get here on Friday, so we're on hold there.
In the meantime I've been grinding all of the rust out of the roof, treating it, and then skimming it for paint, which has taken several weeks. My guess is that the truck got hit with some hail at one point, which cracked the paint, and then someone hit it with a heavy coat of primer and another coat of red, because the roof looked like the surface of the moon. I also knocked out the dents in the passenger's rear corner and skimmed it.
The electrical system is going to be a huge challenge, as someone cut the wires to the fuse panel and took that out instead of just disconnecting everything, so I'm going to have to chase the wires down or replace the entire loom. I've got a spare loom here and I've begun disassembling the dash to be able to get behind it. And speaking of the dash, I've got a new windshield ready to go in, but I think i'm going to do what jb83ih did and pull the glass out, drill the spot welds in the cowl out, and weld new metal in around the cowl vents before sealing everything up. This rig is going to be sitting outside for the forseeable future, so I want to make sure she doesn't rust away any faster than she has.

 

[shortbus4x4]

That picture of the roof does look like hail damage.

 

[stroker3]

That picture of the roof does look like hail damage.

It does . Off subject slightly but it reminds me of a hail damaged car we saw at a gas station once. Young lady bought it for short money. Fairly new. One year old maybe so she didn't really care about the damage for the money she paid.
She just rolled with it and had what she named the car put on a vanity plate...DIMPLES...... LOL

 

[bdgn01]

Sunday update: She's running! I rebuilt the 2300, which was remarkably clean inside, and reinstalled it. While I was waiting on the backordered distributor, I got a new set of points with an integrated condenser, like the one that had originally been on the distributor, and installed that—and I had spark at the plugs. After filling the bowl up with gas and priming it, she fired right up! From there I plumbed a boat tank on to the carb with an electric fuel pump and let her idle for a couple of minutes to blow the crud out of the exhaust. I have to adjust the idle, but she sounds pretty good. Then I tested the mechanical fuel pump, which did nothing, so I'll install a new one this weekend and get that working.

So now I've got a question for the group: this rig came with 3 16" wheels and one 15". I called the previous owner but he says this is how it came to him; there's no fourth 16" wheel. What I need help with is identifying what this wheel is and where I can get another one. It's 16" diameter, 5 lugs, 4.5 bolt pattern with a 3.5" backspacing. I've got the other three mounted with LT215/85R-16's. Does anyone know where I can find a fourth wheel for this thing? I've looked at Coker, Summit, OMIX...

[Edit]: I forgot to mention, there are no markings anywhere on the tire, front or back. Nothing I can use for identification.

 

[mongocanfly]

Somebody else on here was looking for a 5lug 16in wheel recently, and I think not having any luck
I'm betting the 15 was the spare and something happened to the 4th 16in over the yrs..
If it was me , I'd swap to all 15s, and sell the remaining 3 16s , especially as hard to find as they are..
My 2cents...
Congrats on the crank..!!!!

 

[RinTX]

Wonder if JJ has one...

 

[Tom B]

I have been searching for the mythical 16 inch with a 5.5 bolt pattern and have had zero luck. Jeff Campbell did forward me this in my search, may help you out. Good luck, my friend.

 

[bdgn01]

I have been searching for the mythical 16 inch with a 5.5 bolt pattern and have had zero luck. Jeff Campbell did forward me this in my search, may help you out. Good luck, my friend.

Hi Tom— is that a Facebook link?
Answered a dumb question myself. I just reached out to him; let's see what he says. THANKS.

 

[Tom B]

Hi Tom— is that a Facebook link?

Yes, sir.

 

[Jeff Jamison]

I have been searching for the mythical 16 inch with a 5.5 bolt pattern and have had zero luck. Jeff Campbell did forward me this in my search, may help you out. Good luck, my friend.

scouts ,jeeps and dodge used them on the 60's dodge used in the 40's also

 

[stroker3]

We used a few dodge wheels as needed back in the day. The only issue is the wheel covers. We just put on the full dodge ones. I think IH may have had two styles as well on that bolt pattern for the small caps.
The early ones had the 'outy' cover that would mount on the inside of the ridge. The other might be like the ones two post above. The small wheel covers mount on the outside of it. .

 

[bdgn01]

So, some more updates: I've got her starting reliably, and I'm about halfway through flushing the remains of mud dauber nests from the fuel tank. Having a drain plug underneath is super handy. I put the borescope up inside and it looks very clean in there from what I can tell—I don't see rust flakes or debris. There's a new fuel pump installed and the fuel lines are routed to the carb, so it's just a matter of getting the tank clean at this point and connecting the lines.

I rebuilt both of the rear brakes—kept the drums but swapped out the hardware. I practiced my contortionist skills and put in a new master cylinder, and now I have to run a clean line to the clutch slave (which will also get replaced). When that's done and I've got all of the lines sorted out I'll be able to run the engine and (hopefully) see how the clutch feels.

I did follow that lead for a 16" wheel and got it here this week; unfortunately I learned a hard lesson in the difference between wheel offset and backspacing. This new wheel came off a 50's vintage International pickup. I confirmed the backspacing was the same, but the offset is deeper than the ones I've got so it sits about 1" away from the inside of the fender—too close. I may swap it with one of the fronts for the time being until I can find another 16—or maybe I'll run two 15's on the front.

Meanwhile I'm continuing to clean up bodywork here and there as I get the time. I finished the passenger side taillight area and hit it with some ACE IH implement red rattle-can, which is close enough to the body color for the time being. I also used a hand planer to pull up the rubber flooring on the rear bed, but I think I'm going to be smart and buy a sheet of new marine plywood and just replace what's there.

 

[bdgn01]

I've got some updates on the Travelall project now that I'm back from Nats and caught up on work.

A couple of weeks ago I pulled all the screws out of the rear floor and pulled it up to take a look at the stringers and frame underneath. I was pretty amazed at the condition everything is in under there: it's all intact, with no visible rust-through I can see. This will also make working on the brake lines and cleaning the frame much easier. She's now running directly from the fuel tank, and with a new fuel pump she fires right up—but the idle is super-high. I've tested for vacuum leaks but haven't found any, and the idle screws are all the way in, so I'm sitting back and having a think about that before I do anything stupid.

I had a list of stuff I wanted to find at Nats to help the project, and I was lucky enough to score some good C series parts while we were out there. Jeff Jamison hooked me up with a pair of beautiful West Coast mirrors. From various vendors I was able to get some good turn signal buckets, lenses, wing windows, all the chrome badges I didn't have, a pair of sun visors, a fourth hubcap, and a bunch of other stuff. There was a guy with a set of NOS '68 C-series fenders that were extremely tempting, but the price was a bit steep and I didn't want to mess them up by welding all of the trim holes shut. On our way home from the hotel we stopped at Super Scout Specialists and wandered through the parts racks in back, and noticed a pair of old Travelalls in the yard. One had an intact passenger side rear glass pane, and I quickly struck up a deal for it. After some careful surgery with a couple of utility knives, it was safely stored in the car for the ride home. I'd sold some spare Scout parts before the trip to fund the new parts, and I came out a little bit ahead when all was said and done, so I'm pretty happy about that.

Back at work on the Travelalll, I got the brakes bled and working and the clutch cylinder bled and working, but the clutch isn't engaging properly; pressing the pedal to the floor extends the cylinder, but It's grinding when I try to shift into gear. I'm soaking the adjusting rod in PBblaster to see if I can extend it further—more info on that later. The goal is to get her running and moving so that I can shift her location around in the driveway.

I've now got a new Eastwood welder sitting in the garage waiting for a gas bottle and some spare time, so after I get some practice dialing it in, the next big project will be pulling the windshield, drilling out the cowl, and repairing the cowl vents.

 

[bdgn01]

Folks on the Binder Planet are the best. When I first got the Travelall @stroker3 reached out and told me he had a rear bench seat taking up space in his shed, and if I wanted it to let him know. Well, I finally got around to getting up to Rhode Island to meet up with him for a pickup. He threw a bunch of other parts in, including a front bench and hardware he'd found and some smaller C-series specific stuff he didn't need anymore. We loaded up my car and shot the breeze for a good 45 minutes before I had to get back on the road to home. I don't know who's happier, me for having two benches to rebuild or him for having an empty shed. Thanks Ray!

 

[stroker3]

You're welcome. My pleasure. It was very nice meeting you and I really enjoyed the chat....sorry ....LOL.... I'm just glad it all fit in there. Thought for sure on the way down that I would end up bringing something back. It's good to hear you made it home safely.
You're spot on over who might be happier .

Have to admit that it is pretty nice to be able to shuffle around in a spot that's been cluttered for years yelling whoo hoo and acting like a very happy yet senile old man ............thanks again.


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[mongocanfly]

Haha...the box says it all..."prime deals for days..two to be exact"..

 

[bdgn01]

Thursday after work I went right outside and decided it was time to get rid of the platform and crappy aftermarket seats. I don’t have a ton of free space in the garage for my new benches, and what better location to put them both in than in the truck. Plus, I wanted to see what the floor looked like.

First the seats came out; they were held in by eight bolts each, and the four rear inboard bolts on both seats were inaccessible underneath, so I had to use the grinder to cut them off. With those gone it took a little while to free up the platform and pull that out. Underneath I found decades of dirt, one mouse nest, and some garbage.

After donning a mask and cleaning all that out I disassembled the rear platform base and the extender on the back step.

The floors are all in fantastic shape. The worst part is on the driver’s side rear step by the door: water was probably getting in through the door seal and pooling between the wood and the metal. I should be able to cut that part out and weld new metal in. Under both seats there was some surface rust, and a few other small areas here and there. I hit both big spots quickly with a wire wheel until they were smooth and then covered it with some Eastwood Rust Encapsulator.

I'd wire wheeled both metal seat bases earlier in the week, so I put them in place and then placed the rear seat on top of it. I like it! I might just have Jeff J. recreate this pattern exactly, if possible.

 

[Jeff Jamison]

Thursday after work I went right outside and decided it was time to get rid of the platform and crappy aftermarket seats. I don’t have a ton of free space in the garage for my new benches, and what better location to put them both in than in the truck. Plus, I wanted to see what the floor looked like.

First the seats came out; they were held in by eight bolts each, and the four rear inboard bolts on both seats were inaccessible underneath, so I had to use the grinder to cut them off. With those gone it took a little while to free up the platform and pull that out. Underneath I found decades of dirt, one mouse nest, and some garbage.

After donning a mask and cleaning all that out I disassembled the rear platform base and the extender on the back step.

The floors are all in fantastic shape. The worst part is on the driver’s side rear step by the door: water was probably getting in through the door seal and pooling between the wood and the metal. I should be able to cut that part out and weld new metal in. Under both seats there was some surface rust, and a few other small areas here and there. I hit both big spots quickly with a wire wheel until they were smooth and then covered it with some Eastwood Rust Encapsulator.

I'd wire wheeled both metal seat bases earlier in the week, so I put them in place and then placed the rear seat on top of it. I like it! I might just have Jeff J. recreate this pattern exactly, if possible.

That looks pretty easy to do.

 

[nksabaker]

You have a very nice specimen for a project. Sounds like you are doing a great job and enjoying the process too! That truck is solid and has the barn doors to boot! Keep us posted.