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Old 04-25-2008, 10:10 AM
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Default Fiddle Stixx rebuild

Well I got another Friday vacation day so I worked alittle more on the scout and will be working a little more shortly, but I decided to start a thread on my (rebuild) of my rebuild. Its almost been a year that Ive had this 65 scout 80. I feel like I got a good bit done considering the shape of it to start. I didnt take many picture of how it looked a year ago, but since I have to put another motor in I am going to try to take it all back apart and do it again.
Tyler my son decided the name Fiddle Stixx would fit good since I am a fiddle player and builder, and also because thats what we felt like saying when we gernaded the cam bearing. I love reading about Roadkill and many other builds. It keeps me going on mine when I see others progress. Maybe this will make sure I keep going on mine.

So heres where Im at right now. I pulled the motor and trans. Since its out. I am going to clean up the inside and use the other half a gallon of Herculiner on the inside of the fender wells and fire wall. here is how it looks now.
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Old 04-25-2008, 10:47 AM
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Default Re: Fiddle Stixx rebuild

Glad to see the thread Mike, keep the pictures coming! So your plan is to rebuild your motor? I know there is a guy near Salsbury, NC that has quite a few 4cyl's and cheap! Also, a guy joined SEBA looking to buy a rebuild kit for his 4cyl, it may be a good deal if you split one.
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Old 04-25-2008, 11:04 AM
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Glad to see the thread Mike, keep the pictures coming! So your plan is to rebuild your motor? I know there is a guy near Salsbury, NC that has quite a few 4cyl's and cheap! Also, a guy joined SEBA looking to buy a rebuild kit for his 4cyl, it may be a good deal if you split one.
Actually I talked to Howie and he has a 196 for me as well as a 4 spd and d20. As soon as I can get up there to get it. I plan on going through the new 196 to make sure it seems alright and then put it in and rebuild my current engine while Im running the other. It will give me some good practice on IH engines.
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Old 04-25-2008, 11:17 AM
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Glad to see you are making progress Mike!! I know you were discouraged when it let go on you because you were so close on being road ready. At least you got to drive it a little before it died.
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Old 04-25-2008, 01:40 PM
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Glad to see you are making progress Mike!! I know you were discouraged when it let go on you because you were so close on being road ready. At least you got to drive it a little before it died.
Mitch I drove it just enough to know I really want to drive it more. I have came up with a new goal to shoot for. I would like to have it road worthy and axles and suspension safe to make a trip to the beach by end of summer. I use to live on the southern outer banks and drive on the beach alot to fish. I want to show my kids the type of beaches I use to go to before it all goes away. Tyler is 11 and only knows Myrtle beach. I might not make it to the OBX, but if I can get to Carolina beach by early fall I can drive a little there.
Anyway here is progress for the day. Degreased, demudded, and washed and painted.
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Old 04-26-2008, 05:18 PM
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Looking good Mike! Nothing like having clean space to work in. I love my 4 cyl. and am glad that I've kept it. Pretty easy to work on and tune. I just can't wait to put some propane on mine - hopefully by the end of the year. Keep up the progress and pics.
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Old 04-27-2008, 02:03 PM
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I started tearing the old motor down. To see what really went wrong with it. After reading all the stories here on cam bearings going bad, I asumed this was it. Not so sure now. I took the front cover off and expected to find ground up teeth or something, but it was in perfect shape. So Im a little confused. The engine ran good for a minute or two and then it sounded like parts were going to fly out from the top. There was some metal in the pan but from where I dont know yet.

Oil pump??

Here is the pics of the gears.
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Old 04-28-2008, 07:26 AM
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If you decide to replace the cam bearings. Get the tool for it..Its worth it. 125.00 from Tooltopia.com. Mine went in nice and smooth. Just be sure to put them in the correct spots. they are differnt sizes but are very close in size to each other and will go in wrong without noticing. I have mine almost done. It goes back in truck this comming weekend. Im going to run 1 tooth advanced to see how it works even though it has a 256 cam in it. Pull the crank out to get to cam bearings. I left the heads and pistons in place, pushed them up into the cylinders and tied the rods out of way so they dont flop around. Yours should be easyer. all the bearings were around 145.00. (for a 392)
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Old 04-28-2008, 01:10 PM
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If you decide to replace the cam bearings. Get the tool for it..Its worth it. 125.00 from Tooltopia.com. Mine went in nice and smooth. Just be sure to put them in the correct spots. they are differnt sizes but are very close in size to each other and will go in wrong without noticing. I have mine almost done. It goes back in truck this comming weekend. Im going to run 1 tooth advanced to see how it works even though it has a 256 cam in it. Pull the crank out to get to cam bearings. I left the heads and pistons in place, pushed them up into the cylinders and tied the rods out of way so they dont flop around. Yours should be easyer. all the bearings were around 145.00. (for a 392)
Im going to try to tear a little farther into it today to see if that was really the problem. Its good to know someone who just replaced them just in case it is. Keep your ears posted I might be asking questions soon.
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Old 04-28-2008, 01:53 PM
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Mike that scout will be sweet when you get it finished. Its good to set goals like that so the project won't drag out forever. good luck. if you ever get up this way playing music let me know i would love to come watch. i have some friends that play blue grass.
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