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Old 04-24-2007, 07:16 PM
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Default 1972 International 1510 2 1/2 ton

Just bought the truck. Wow sounds good, Runs great. However the master clinder is dead. Looked everywhere. Anyone have any Ideas? Already contacted Cardone.com, Wagner also. They are no help. Anyone know of anyone with one or that rebuilds them, Maybe one on shelf willing to sell. I want this truck on the road so bad. Please help me....Part number would also be helpfull. Thanks, Daniel
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Old 04-24-2007, 09:13 PM
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Default Re: 1972 International 1510 2 1/2 ton

Play around in Tripple Diamond Talk... couple of use with 1510's in there.

Down side is the MC are kind of expensive, plus side is last time I called Portland Brake Service (I think that was it, I'd have to look it up to be 100%) they had a couple re-mans on the shelf, bad news, I've *heard* that the Midland MC's don't always take a rebuild, so make sure you check the warranty/return policy, and bench bleed it first.


Few of us are working on/researching discs as well for the front.... we'll see what happens.


Congrats on your new purchase.... down side it the 1510's are even less common than most IH's, so *some* parts are just plain hard to find. :sad:


Does your MC look like this?:
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Old 04-25-2007, 12:06 AM
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wasn't sure where your cowpen is but seattle brake and clutch was able to help me with my 1210 that had larger brakes than it was suppose to. not sure it it that's helps. any pics?
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Old 04-25-2007, 07:07 AM
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Default Re: 1972 International 1510 2 1/2 ton

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Just bought the truck. Wow sounds good, Runs great. However the master clinder is dead. Looked everywhere. Anyone have any Ideas? Already contacted Cardone.com, Wagner also. They are no help. Anyone know of anyone with one or that rebuilds them, Maybe one on shelf willing to sell. I want this truck on the road so bad. Please help me....Part number would also be helpfull. Thanks, Daniel
These Midland MCs are not rebuilt by any of the big houses anymore. They can be rebuilt but the kit is as expensive as a new one if it can be located. I think the kit was 175 plus shipping. I found a new one on the shelf for $217 and I was delirious with excitement. Van at Vanco Power Brakes in California can rebuild and sleeve your unit for about 200 bucks. That being said, he does not like them and will try to direct you to a substitution. He did not have a suitable substitution for the Midland at the time I spoke to him so I just used the one I bought.

The part number is on the flat boss at the end of the cigar shaped cast iron portion of your MC. Write down all of the numbers and have them ready. Call big truck brake service centers in your area and they might be able to source a new, not rebuilt unit.

Bad news: if your MC is bad, your booster is probably bad too and that is another 125 to rebuild. Wheel cylinders can be found at the same big truck brake center where you may/may not source the MC. You need 8 wheel cylinders, 2 for each wheel.

Expect to pay over $1000 total for all of your hydraulic cylinders. The small parts will have to be found by LL dealers or scavenged from wrecked trucks. Shoes can be reilned by the aforementioned truck brake center(s). Van might be able to fabricate brake hoses for the truck.

There are a few of us pursuing disc brake conversion for our 1510s but if you are really chomping at the bit you should stay stock. It may take you some time to put the parts together, though.
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Old 04-25-2007, 07:20 AM
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wasn't sure where your cowpen is
Hah,

Cowpens is in SC, its an actual town!

Daniel,

Welcome to the IH world, there is a huge group of people in the area with IH vehicles. I'm sure someone in our club can help, check us out. Southeast Binders Assocation. We have a forum on the BB where you can post as well.

www.southeastbinders.com

I assume you've checked with Napa and Carquest and make them break out their catalogs..
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Old 04-25-2007, 09:18 AM
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send it to vanco,he'll fix ya up!jeff
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Old 04-25-2007, 10:16 AM
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Hey, if you're in Cowpens, SC, then you're not too far from me. I'm in Spartanburg. I've got an older '52 L-130 and found a new master cylinder for my truck at Napa. You might want to give them or Car Quest a try. Just make sure you ask if they'll look through their books rather than just giving up if it doesn't show up on their computer screen.

Good luck!
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Old 04-25-2007, 10:21 AM
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I have a '74 D500 (1& 1/2 ton) that has a Midland MC like the one Mark Ashford's pic. I went to my local Napa, dug out their book and found new pieces and rebuild kits. Both were fairly pricy but I went with the kit and it's worked great ever since. Later on my booster developed a leak so I split the booster case and repaired the diaphram inside with bicycle tire patches and silicone Ha Ha works like a charm; no leaks.
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Old 04-25-2007, 11:53 AM
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so I split the booster case and repaired the diaphram inside with bicycle tire patches and silicone
That's what I'd call getting by with what ya' got, incredible!! Good job!!
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Old 04-25-2007, 01:33 PM
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Default Re: 1972 International 1510 2 1/2 ton

That master cylinde pictured is available either new or rebuilt, I dont care, I just open the box and out the new one on.
Fords of the same size/vintage use that system as well, I've replaced several of them.
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