Why buy a Scout, and not a Bronco?

[Jay Tabor]

you fail to see the>>>>>>>>> BIG PICTURE<<<<<<<<.
what are you gonna get? a 30 year old -beat- to- death -scout!!?
or a 30 year -old- beat- to- death- broncito?
either is older than you are.
either one you dont know nothing about,
or where to get each part youre gonna need . . or have the money to buy them all anyhow.
each and every vehicle is gonna break.
or already has.
how do you figure a fords dana 44 is less strong than a scouts dana44?
or the fords dana 20 transfer case is less strong than dana 20 in a scout>
or the fords transmission compared to the one in the scout>
think one 30 year old driveshaft is better than the other?
or a 2000000000 mile IH engine isnt about to blow,
compared to a 1,0000000000 ford engine>
more ford parts are around than IH engine parts. you know how to fix it?
most vehicles that old -if still running-barely- are beat to death rode hard put away wet.
so why spend money on somethign that probably needs a complete rebuild>
its not a showroom floor zero miles 2012 year vehicle!! with 100,000 mile warranty!
you aint got the time or money before the time to bail out occurs, then where ya gonna go?
all the roads will be jammed packed with others, or blocked by the federales . .
so you aint going nowhere lessen youse allready there . .
best stick with the single speed bmx bike- youll get farther- wont cost as much,-
can carry it if the tires go flat..

mark- you cant find new IHV8 scout engine oil pumps . .
how about a crankshaft? or new head for a 345?
how about a new windsheild wiper switch, ww motor?
new holley electronic dist pick up?
the list goes on . .

[crnbndr123]

November 1977 Scout SS II driven by Jerry L. Boone of Parker, AZ finished first of production vehicles in the Baja 1000. He finished 19 hours and 58 minutes ahead of the closest competitor. A Jeep CJ7.

[binderbart]

Originally Posted by crnbndr123

November 1977 Scout SS II driven by Jerry L. Boone of Parker, AZ finished first of production vehicles in the Baja 1000. He finished 19 hours and 58 minutes ahead of the closest competitor. A Jeep CJ7.

and the jeep guys have been mad at us ever since
saw a cool hat at the I.H. show last weekend, it said" I do understand, thats why I drive a scout"

[Comanche Scott]

Originally Posted by Landry

One of my biggest concerns is local parts availability. As one of you pointed out, the Scouts are more reliabile, so maybe it wouldn't be an issue. Lately I've been getting more concerned about TEOTWAWKI issues, due to an economic collapse, EMP attack, cyber attack, etc. In that scenario, transporation of parts might be limited or non-existent, so local availability would be important. Of course, if the Scout's parts don't fail nearly as often as a Bronco, then it becomes a toss-up.

And this (IMO) is exactly where the EB outshines the 80/800. some parts for the 80/800 are no longer manufactured. Especially when looking at the Scout 800 with V8.
Brake parts, inner axle seals for the Dana 30, Boat style rockers and rocker shafts, etc. When the "unobtanium" parts are found, they are usually quite spendy.
So if you are looking for a vehicle with good local parts availability, look at the Scout-II or Bronco.
If you are seriously concerned about teotwawki, then a Scout-II Diesel would be a good choice. Just swap the alternator out with a generator.
Load up on Hornaday Zombie rounds, get your road warrior outfit on, and you're good to go.

Scott

[76 xlc]

Originally Posted by crnbndr123

November 1977 Scout SS II driven by Jerry L. Boone of Parker, AZ finished first of production vehicles in the Baja 1000. He finished 19 hours and 58 minutes ahead of the closest competitor. A Jeep CJ7.

Thanks for the correction. Sherman Balch was another SCORE Class 3 Champion in a Scout.

[ArizonaIHguy]

I was offered a Bronco after my Scout was destroyed. I tried driving it, but it just wasn't the same. (Granted this was a late eighties early nineties Bronco.) My grandfather said it well when he said that Ford put car engines in everything. IHC put truck engines in everything. If you're looking for something near indestructible for the trail, a DD, or just about anything else you can imagine you should get a Scout. I found that with my scout the only parts that failed were the little five dollar expendable parts. Nothing big or expensive. A friend of mine bought the Bronco I mentioned. It has been five months and three thousand dollars since his purchase. He used that Bronco the same way I used my Terra. The Terra was just indestructible.

[Sammy]

Originally Posted by ArizonaIHguy

I was offered a Bronco after my Scout was destroyed. I tried driving it, but it just wasn't the same. (Granted this was a late eighties early nineties Bronco.) My grandfather said it well when he said that Ford put car engines in everything. IHC put truck engines in everything. If you're looking for something near indestructible for the trail, a DD, or just about anything else you can imagine you should get a Scout. I found that with my scout the only parts that failed were the little five dollar expendable parts. Nothing big or expensive. A friend of mine bought the Bronco I mentioned. It has been five months and three thousand dollars since his purchase. He used that Bronco the same way I used my Terra. The Terra was just indestructible.

Your grandfather hasn't seen the engine that Ford put in my 99 F350. I'll give you a hint, it isn't a car engine.
My DD beater is a 1990 Bronco II, the project is a 1972 Scout II. You will pay more and get more back if you're in it for the money with the Bronco than with a comparable Scout. But the Scout isn't the poor man's Bronco either. It's all a matter of what you want so that when you pull up at the neighborhood Wal-mart and some dipstick in the parking lot tells you "nice Jeep".

[retiredblue]

Well if this guy is still on the fence between a Scout and a B....o he should go with the Scout- The cool factor alone is worth the trip- I have had Scouts for about 20 years- and I would not do it any other way- Scout people are the best and as for parts? put on what ever works and what ever fits- My 800 is still going-jmho

[Landry]

Originally Posted by Jay Tabor

you fail to see the>>>>>>>>> BIG PICTURE<<<<<<<<.
what are you gonna get? a 30 year old -beat- to- death -scout!!?
or a 30 year -old- beat- to- death- broncito?
either is older than you are.

Oh, do I wish that were true! I'm 53, Jay!

Originally Posted by Jay Tabor

either one you dont know nothing about,
or where to get each part youre gonna need . . or have the money to buy them all anyhow.

Now THAT is ALL true! But I think I can learn about either one, once I have it. I am concerned about parts availability for the Scout, but I sure would rather have a Scout!

Originally Posted by Jay Tabor

each and every vehicle is gonna break.

Yep, but some break more often than others. I'm thinkin' the Scouts are more reliable, but if I buy one that's not in decent shape, or don't replace all the aging parts properly, or replace the engine with a non-International diesel, the "Scout reliability" factor suffers.

Originally Posted by Jay Tabor

so why spend money on somethign that probably needs a complete rebuild>
its not a showroom floor zero miles 2012 year vehicle!! with 100,000 mile warranty!
you aint got the time or money before the time to bail out occurs, then where ya gonna go?
all the roads will be jammed packed with others, or blocked by the federales .

All good points, Jay, but what got me looking at Scouts/Broncos, etc. was the book "One Second After", among other similar stuff, which indicate that electronic ignition vehicles might be more susceptible to EMP. The 2012 vehicle might well be useless (in spite of the 100,000 mile warranty!). With the Scout, I wouldn't be worried about the roads. Roads? We don't need no stinkin' roads!!!

Originally Posted by Jay Tabor

best stick with the single speed bmx bike- youll get farther- wont cost as much,-
can carry it if the tires go flat..

Except I can't carry family and food on a bike.

[MattKelley]

Buy a Scout...Its a image.