I am not known to do anything the easy way and would like to build my own cage and other stuff for the Bubba Scout. With that in mind I am in need of a cheap but functional tubing bender. Why? Because I dig it. Yes it would probably be cheaper to buy an after market cage and have someone build to it but this may not be my last cage. So I purchase the plans from www.gottrike.com with the idea of building one. I still am very interested in this version because I like to build and fabricate. The other option would be the one that is a premade hydrualic from Eastwood. Not sure if anyone has ever used it. Its enticing due to its price and the dies that come with it. My concern is the tube wall thickness capabilities. links to both below. http://www.eastwood.com/professional-tubing-bender.html http://www.gottrikes.com/Tube_Bender.htm Let me know your thoughts and or other options. I know im not the only one out there that would like to know more on this subject.