Travelall Tire Size

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  1. akerley

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    I am restoring a '74 Travelall 150 4X4. I would like to keep the "stock" look but put a larger modern tire on it.

    What was the largest diameter tire that International put on these trucks? I read somewhere that IH had an optional 16" rim. Would that have been a 33" or bigger tire?
     
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    The 150 is considered a "1/2 ton" vehicle.

    From a "stock" perspective...

    I do not know the tire options for 74 / 75 150 T/A -- if the 16" rim (tube tires) was optional on a T/A -- maybe on a pickup.

    AFAIK, all the 72 / 73 1010, 1110, 1110 4x4 only had 15 inch rims.

    The following data is from a 1972 Travelall Trailering brochure.

    The "largest" (H78 x 15 LR D) had a Static Loaded Radius of 13.1". (dia prob 27").

    The 3/4 tons (1210) had 16.5 inch rim -- "largest" (9.50 x 16.5) had a SLR of 14.1".

    The brochure shows a 16 inch rim option for use with the "old" tubed tires -- 7.00 x 16 and 7.50 x 16 -- "largest" has a SLR of 15".

    The last set of 9.50 x 16.5 tires that I had on my T/A had a dia of 30.5".
     
  3. Forcus

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    My 74 1/2 ton pickup came with 15 x 6 rims and 15-7.00 tires which I think is around 29-30 inch unloaded diameter.

    235/75r15's fit fine but are a little small. 28.9 inch unloaded diameter.

    I was planning on using 31x10.5r15 (ideal rim width 7-9") or 30x9.5r15 (ideal rim width 6.5-8.5"). The BFG A/T is available in a 33x9.5r15 (ideal rim width 6.5-8.5"). However the half ton 69-75's rode low in stock and I'm not sure you could fit it. But your truck probably has sagging springs anyway, so maybe a 2 inch boost over stock and they might fit. I'm sure someone on here has tried it.

    My ideal solution is if you are keeping the half ton (5 lug) stuff, either aftermarket wheels (most are gross on an IH, except maybe the MT Classics) or custom steel wheels made to 16x7 ($$). You could try to find some earlier 5 lug 16 inch rims but I have never seen them for sale.. Alternately you can upgrade to a full floating rear axle and change the front outers (spindles, etc) to 8 lug from a Chevy and then use any of the massive selection of 8 lug truck rims.
     
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    FWIIW, both my 74 200 series, a 4x4 and a 2x4, use 235/85/R16 which measures 31" in diameter.
     
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    We have a '73 1110 T'all, and we have aftermarket white spoke rims, and 31x10.5x15 tires on it. The rims aren't backspaced right, and so at full right or left wheel lock, we rub. I think it rubs on the wheel well, but I don't know for sure, I just don't turn it all the way. Let me get my profile back to supporting member and I can post a picture, or if you want I can send you a pic so you can see what mine looks like, stock, but with the larger tires. I also had a 1210 2wd, and it actually had the 16.5 rims on it, but of course those are 8 lug, not the standard 5 lugs like the 1000/1100 series had for wheels, and tires cost a little more, but it sure handled like a dream. I believe that the stock size was around the 235/75/15 size tires, that was previously indicated. I like the BFG All-Terrain KO's. They last a long time, and give the truck more of a profile than the cheaper tires I had replaced on it. HTH, and I will try to get those pics for you.

    Jeff
     
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    My dad's t-all has stock rims with LT-235 15's on it......he claims it's
    pretty much what it came out with when it was new...
     
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    Forgot to mention, BFG A/T is the old standby but several magazine tests and Tire Rack feedback (use at your discretion) place the General Grabber A/T 2 on top. And it's cheaper.

    http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=General&tireModel=Grabber+AT+2

    I like it because it has more tread block sipes (for wet pavement / ice) than the BFG A/T yet still has voids (for snow / light mud).

    As others mentioned, the 235/75R15 is probably closest to stock size. But if you have 15x6.5's the 30x9.5R15 fits perfectly on the stock rims and shouldn't give you clearance problems. and the 31x10.5R15 would be a little beefier and should still fit (a little wide for the rim but not bad).
     
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    I have a 72 1110 travelall with super swamper 33x10.50 R15 on 5x7 steel spoke wheels with the factory hub caps and it looks great, old school high boy look, and I have no rubbing. I did add a long chevy add a leaf to rear last summer and it looks a whole lot better. As for tires I hate the swampers horrible ride and on snow they stink, great 4 wheeling and on anything loose like sand and mud,and they are already dry rotting on the sidewalls(about 5 years old).BFG recently came out with a 33x10.50 R15 AT&MT that looks like a real good tire
    good luck
     
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    When the rear axles on my 68 'C' 1100 4X4 Travelall lost the flange off the end of the shaft, they were replaced with the newer design axle shafts from the 'D' series trucks by the IH dealer. I had been running the 31x10.5x16.5" with the 8.25" wide rim. (Those 5x5.5 rims in the 16.5" size were available 'aftermarket' back in the early 1970s). The dealer told me not to exceed a 33" tall tire with the newer axles. I am now running the BFG TA 265x75x16" tire on a aluminum 8" wide rim. That is a ~31 5/8" diameter tire. The taller TA tire on the 16" aluminum rim is 8 pounds lighter than the old 16.5" steel wheel and tire. Thats 32 pounds of rotating mass eliminated plus the 8 pounds less weight of the 'spare' tire/wheel. (Easier for me to wrassle with!)
    Bill Bennett 68 Travelall 1100 4X4 304A
     
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    Our '73 has some aftermarket wheels the PO had gotten. I run 31x10.5x15 BFG AT TA's and the rubbing problem is due to a backspacing issue. I would imagine that the original wheels(which had hubcaps) would work without the issues, but I like the looks of a white wagon wheel with a light blue truck-seems to look a little more attention getting :)

    Jeff
     
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    Sort of resurrecting a dead thread...

    I installed some 265/75’s today on my ‘72 Travelall and they rubbed in the front on the pitman arm grease fitting. Had to drop down to 245’s to keep from rubbing. I want a bigger tire, but I have no idea about backspacing needs.

    Can anyone advise what to look for in a classic wagon-wheel type wheel’s backspacing dimensions?

    I’m eventually going to give this rig a mild spring lift. Don’t think that’s going to fix the current problem though.

    Thanks.
     
  12. Jeff Jamison

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    Does it only drag on tight turn? if so adjust the turning stop so it doesn't hit.I did this on my travelall with 31 10.50 15s on it
     
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    ARGH!!! Learn something new everyday.
     

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