Travelall Center Bearing

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  1. RinTX

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    working on my 1973 Travelall - long over due replacing u joints and center driveshaft bearing. Need some pointers.
    First - how do I remove this center bearing from the driveshaft?
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    I don’t want to break or damage anything. Anyone know the correct Spicer or Timken bearing number to replace this? I don’t trust the online sources.

    The U-joints certainly look like a 1310 to me. O’reillys website is telling my that is not correct. I cleaned up an end cap and it has P591 on it.
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    Pretty sure these things are original...
    So is 1310 the correct u joint??
     
  2. kevingweq

    kevingweq Y-Block King

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    They are a light press fit on the shaft , Sometimes a block of hardwood and hammer will knock them off , other times take
    the mount and rubber off and use punch /chisel , Clean up shaft and use punch to install ( make sure bearing stays even ,not cocked )
    Take joint to store ?
     
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    Thanks Kevin. I’ve pried and tried gently tapping with hammer and screwdriver. Soaking in PB Blaster again for now. The internet shows many options out there. I’m not sure what is correct. The u-joints measure a tiny bit bigger than the specs I see on 1310 u-joints. I’m gonna go with those. I just need to figure out what Center bearing.
    Some more interesting pics.
    The rubber around the center bearing has a 72 stamped in the circle. Pretty certain it is original.
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    Also what I assume is the part number 230999-1. I can not find any cross reference on the Internet.
    More for the u-joints.
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    249 and A3 R58. Again failing to find a cross reference.
     
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    They give these plastic gauges away at driveline shops
     
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    On my center bearing, removed the housing and rubber to where just the bearing was on the shaft. Used a large 3-jaw puller with the threaded part centered on the driveshaft splined end and used some muscle to pull the bearing off. It is a tight fit.
     
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    Jeff Jamison Lives in an IH Dealership

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    I got a new center bearing about 3 years ago for a 73 travelette at napa,came with bracket and rubber.They got it by the truck not part number.U joints I would go to parts store and get what they list,always worked for me.
     
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    After much searching I located a Timken brand center bearing. Should be here tomorrow.
    JJ pointed me towards a National brand center bearing. I’m not sure the difference National vs Timken. Same part number though. HB88107A.
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0019IL4JI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    No luck trying to find a Spicer brand. Did find several sellers on EBay with a Spicer with a larger ID (1.54” IIRC) for a Ford F-250. Picture depictions are an exact match for what was on my Travelall.
     
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    Got Spicer 1310 u-joints from O’reillys.
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    Went to a new O’reillys- closer to where I live. New guy behind the counter - put 1973 Travelall in computer and it doesn’t list the 1310 (I expected this as their website does not list these for the Travelall either). I finally had to ask him to look up the part number 5-1310X. He found it. They only had one so I had to go back later and pick up the other 2 they ordered.
    Rear half of driveshaft with new u-joints installed.
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    The Timken center support bearing just got delivered. While I was at O’reillys yesterday I had the counter guy pull out the Precision brand center support bearing. Glad I did - That assembly did not seem nearly as stout as this Timken.
    I’ll get to work installing in a little while.
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    Not to be a nitpicker but it looks like the circlip on the bottom (pictured) cap is not expanded into it's groove fully
    a good indicator is if the ends "line up" as in the top circlip
    Sometimes groove needs cleaning other times gentle tapping with small punch will remedy
    Have had to give d/s yoke a solid whack to spread it a bit and they pop into place

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    Kevin - I will double check all of them. Thank you.
     

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