Towing a Scout II w/dolly

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  1. Mark Pietz

    Mark Pietz High Wheeler

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    Trouble finding the recent (?) thread debating how to best tow a Scout II. Trailer, probably, but that may not be in the mix. I am planning on towing my Scout II from the Sacramento area to Houston, Tx, this summer. This is the first phase of escaping the Left Coast and moving to friendlier climes. I am renting a 20 foot U-Haul and their calculator says they will permit a Scout II (w/four banger), weight about 4,000 lbs. (that is correct since I've weighed it), using a dolly. I will remove the rear driveshaft and drive the thing onto the dolly via the front driveshaft. I will be sure the rear punkin is full to its normal capacity.
    Anyone done this? Thoughts and advice? I would prefer to ship, but I'd need to keep the cost down on that. Recommend a good shipper?
    Venting here in an aside, last week I was notified that my home owner's insurance will not be renewed in a few months because I now live in an extreme fire zone (Sierra foothills). California has a program as insurer of last resort for insurance of this type. My rate will almost triple to hold on to significantly less coverage.
     
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    I towed a Scout II with an F250 on a U-Haul auto transport trailer and would recommend it over a tow dolly. Having the electric or surge brakes on the full trailer makes a big difference for something as heavy as a Scout.
     
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    Scoutcamper Farmall Cub

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    So to make sure I understand correctly, you are talking about renting the 20ft Box Truck and using a 2-wheel car dolly?

    Did they say the combo was too heavy to use the flatbed trailer? I'd definitely be more comfortable with the flatbed trailer if you can, for that distance.

    -Josh
     
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    I'm in San Diego and when I bought my scout it came with a dolly. I don't remember where we met but the PO towed it down from somewhere in Northern CA and we met half way and then towed it home. My dad still has it and he is selling it I believe if you're interested. We have used it many times to tow scouts, broncos, FJ's and a few jeeps. I don't think I ever took out a driveshaft but vaguely remember having to reinstall a driveshaft now that I think about it.

    Maybe get a uhaul and a u haul trailer and then don't even worry about a dolly?
     
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    SR2dude Farmall Cub

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    One more thing, You cant backup with a dolly which is a total PITA
     
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    For that distance, I agree on the trailer. Dolly would be fine for shorter haul. Saves you the driveline hassle and any worry about needing to back the train up if you have to.
     
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    Not knowing if you have Auto or manual, I'm including both from the Owner's Manual:

    4x2 Manual:
    1. Pick up rear end or remove properller shaft
    4x4 Manual all 4 wheels on ground:
    1. Place transfer case in neutral
    2. Place transmission in high gear
    3. Front hubs in "locked" position

    4x2 Auto:
    1. Must not be towed over 15 miles nor exceed 30 mph with transmission in NEUTRAL and propeller shaft connected; OR
    2. For distances greater than 15 miles, remove propeller shaft or hoist rear end
    4x4 Auto:
    1. Place transfer case in NEUTRAL
    2. Place Auto transmission in PARK
    3. Lock front hubs

    The 4x4 Auto may be towed with the rear picked up. However, if the front is picked up, the propeller shaft must be removed.

    Rd
     
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    I would get the Uhaul trailer, tell them you're hauling an Escort or Corolla, otherwise they look at you funny and may not let you rent it. I've put bigger, longer and heavier than a Scout on those and they pull just fine.
     
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    I tow mine with a dolly no problem. This trip was to the HCB bash in Marble Falls, TX which was a little over 1200 miles round trip. I did remove the rear shaft but for trips less than 50 miles I just leave tranny in park with transfer case in neutral.

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    I tow with a motorhome and do have to plan stops so that backing up is, hopefully, not required. You can back up if you are careful - just not very far. This particular dolly has surge brakes and recommend the dolly you use have that.
     
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    This reminds me: If you can swing it, you might save some money in the long run if you can BUY a used trailer or dolly, and sell it once you are done with it. You might even make some money if you find a good deal. I don't remember exactly what I paid to U-Haul when I rented the flatbed car hauler trailer to bring my 1940 Pontiac from Florida to Arizona, but it wasn't that cheap. If I'd had the time I would have bought a used trailer and sold it after I was done with it, but there were a lot of other factors in that trip. If I remember, I was seeing used flatbed trailers going for about 3X what i paid to rent the U-Haul. I'm definitely planning to do this if I can, if I'm in a similar situation again.

    -Josh
     
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    I prefer a trailer for a long haul like that,but have towed plenty with just a tow bar. Pulled both driveshaft out of my old bronco and pulled it from Texas to Wyoming and back. The guy I sold it to towed it from west to east Tx. I have a tow bar built into the front of one of my scouts and brought it home that way when I bought it. Just make sure you have good tires and a good front end alignment.
     
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    X's whatever it is now on a trailer over dolly. There's only so many miles , fill-ups , pit stops (if traveling with females), and possible wrong turns you can make without needing reverse. Espescially with a larger vehicle. Miss judgment with one tight turn , swinging up to the pumps somewhere or into a parking lot for some fast food that's tighter than you expected and you're in for some time consuming work. My BIL had a motorhome and would dolly his pickup , finally got so tired of the limited backing thing he switched over to a fifth wheel . In addition it's also a little easier seeing all four trailer tires in the mirror. Most of the time you'll see the dolly but you'll have no idea how that scout is doing back there. Driving a U-Haul alone is bad enough with the bone head moves many of the renters make, unsure if I'd risk being another one. I suppose the planned route , regions and individual tastes play a roll. The coasts are a bit tighter. I'd guess sticking to the wide open highways out there would be different than campgrounds and tourist areas east of the Mississippi. Texas is big on crew cab longbed pickups. Back here we just don't have the 40 acres you need to make a turn in the damn things..
     
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    I've done the Budget Rent a truck and car trailer a few times for my military moves. The box on the Budget truck was wider than the trailer so backing was a huge pain as it was impossible to stay ahead of it. Only made that mistake once at a gas station. After that I just picked stations that I could pull through without backing. Which wasn't a problem at all ime. I also bought a car trailer for one move and sold it after the trip for a profit. The pitfall however is that not all rental trucks have a tow ball. Actually it didn't even have a receiver back there. Had to do some fast talking on one to get a different truck since Budget says you can only use their trailer or you're in breach of contract. Which I could see them trying to use against you on an insurance claim. I would imagine that U-Haul has the same clause.
    Personally I would go with the car trailer, but if it's out of the budget there's nothing wrong with the dolly. If you have oversized tires make sure in advance that it'll fit on the dolly or trailer. A few years back I found out the hard way that U-Haul has different width auto transports. The lot boy can't pick and choose either as the computer tells them which one to hook up. Also the tire straps only fit up to like a 31 inch tire iirc.
    Speaking of budget the prices can fluctuate widely week to week depending on the day of week and where they have an excess of trucks. One year I got a 26 footer Colorado to Florida for only $500.
     

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