The "Revenant" (a Champagne Scout).

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  1. Scat_bucket

    Scat_bucket Farmall Cub

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    IMAG1352.jpg IMAG1342.jpg IMAG1343.jpg I accidentally bought this '65 Champagne Scout last Spring.

    I wasn't in the market for another one, but this was for sale not far from my house and I thought it wouldn't hurt to just look at it (haha, wrong!). It wasn't running and I really didn't have room for it. So, I thought the best course of action would be to offer a low price that the owner would refuse. So I offered less than a third of his asking price. He said "absolutely not!", turned his back and walked away, leaving me standing in the street. I dodged that bullet, so I thought... Half an hour later he texted me and said that he would take my offer. At that point I felt obligated to follow through. After a few hours I got it started and I drove it home with the rear left wheel wobbling, and leaving a trail of oil for three miles leading up to my driveway.

    The good news is... after some research that I realized that I bought a Champagne Scout. My plans are to restore it to original as my finances and time permit.
     
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    Scat_bucket Farmall Cub

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    This is why the left rear wheel wobbles: IMAG1398.jpg
     
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    Scat_bucket Farmall Cub

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    I'm not sure if the back seat is from a '65. The color is redish-brown. Does anyone know which years this style of arm rests were used?
     

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    Awesome find!!!! Congrats!
     
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    Jeff Jamison Lives in an IH Dealership

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    That's definatly not the correct color on the rear seat,but the seat is correct style,dont know on the arm rests.
     
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    Thanks customtronic. I'm not sure if I'm lucky or not. Definitely overwhelmed. Having two Scout projects is a lot.

    On the arm rests, I have seen two types: the padded ones, and the one piece hard plastic ones. I don't know when each type was used.
     
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    Champagne Scout Farmall Cub

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    Glad to see you decided to restore it! Good luck with the build!
    -Champagne Scout
     
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    Thanks Champagne Scout! I might be keeping this '65 CS because it doesn't require emissions testing in Utah. My 800 B does, and it failed last year (PITA may sell it). I will be cross checking your thread.
     
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    I agree, Jeff. Its the wrong seat. I got rid of it and found a Champagne colored one.
     
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    The rear main seal is leaking a lot. About a cup of oil every 5-minutes of running time. Gotta pull the tranny to fix that. Here's some pictures of the transmission coming out.

    I decided to remove the trans by turning it 180 degrees and lifting it with a transmission jack up inside of the Scout. trans1.jpg

    From the inside I hefted it over to the passenger area.
    And then from the outside I hefted it back onto the transmission jack which was a convenient way to wheel the trans around without messing my back up. It may have been easier to remove the shift tower and wheel the tranny out from below. Maybe next time.. trans 2.jpg

    Here's a picture of the beginning of the cleaning process. trans 3.jpg

    After I scraped it with a putty knife I pressure washed it twice, used a couple cans of engine cleaner, a can of oven cleaner (good for cast iron, but keep it away from aluminum), scrubbed it with Pinesol, and wire brushed it. Not an easy cleanup!
     
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    I found several problems when I removed the transmission. First, I found that the pilot bearing was broken. pilot.jpg
    That could be the source of the shrieking noise I heard when the engine was running. Easy fix, this part is available at the auto parts store.

    Second I found a dent in the bowl shaped sheet-metal cover that allows access to the clutch from underneath the truck.
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    When I looked inside it was clear that the flywheel was rubbing where the sheet metal was dented. This could also be the source of the shrieking noise when the engine was running. Clutch Access piece 2.jpg

    Easy fix, I pounded it out with a hammer.

    Third, I noticed that the transmission support was bent. Someone probably hit a big rock.
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    The bent support (and loose bell housing bolts!) probably caused a misalignment with the engine, which destroyed the pilot bearing, which may explain why the transmission won't stay in second gear (so I have read). The fix on this has not been so easy. I put the support on a press and almost have it straight. It still needs a little more fixing.
     
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    It was my plan to just freshen up the transmission seals. Then I heard a sickening noise as I was separating my transfer case from the transmission... the tinkle of bearings getting loose and falling to the bottom of the transmission. Ooops! I should have taken the shift tower off first and tied the main shaft in place so that it couldn't slide out and release the bearings :-(
    Lesson learned. Time for a pause to think about how far I want to go with a rebuild.
     
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    Something about one step forward and two steps back comes to mind.
    It sounds like this vehicle found the right person. All too many of these beasts are being parted to make one from two.
     
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    Project Update: I found a new transmission. The CS Scout is hybernating now. The install will have to wait until the spring thaw. unnamedsnow.jpg .
     
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    Spring became summer before I got back to the CS Scout.
     
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    rear seal 2.jpg Pulled the leaky Rear Main seal using three screws and a slide hammer.
     
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    Freshened up the seals and painted everything with epoxy.
     
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