Scout SSII Go Kart...

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  1. Mike Moore

    Mike Moore Dreams of Cub Cadets

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    I think it is rare enough that I would like to have it redone like it would have been in '79 from IH. I need to take some pics of the underside, though...I'm not convinced this one came from the factory as anything more than a body shell.

    Fred...this is the one from eBay. I bought it for a lower price after he didn't get any bids on it last time. I'm sure I still overpaid, but I have something that I doubt I'll ever have the opportunity to buy again. Once it's done, I'll have a rare piece that I'll be proud to take to any parade or Scout show.:clap:
     
  2. Richard Thrashe

    Richard Thrashe Farmall Cub

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    Mike-- The vendor had the frame there, Engine had been replace with a elect. motor & battery. The dash had guages to show amperage etc. I did not try to buy it as David had already purchased body. Yes, He was selling them seperately. Richard
     
  3. Mike Moore

    Mike Moore Dreams of Cub Cadets

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    That's what David said to me as well, Richard. I wonder if it was actually "converted" to electric, or if that's how it was originally built, though. Here's specifically what I wonder:
    Say for a moment that the local Shriners temple called F.W. and ordered a few bodies alone, with no chassis, direct from F.W., not going through the IH dealer network like the order forms I attached above. Possibly the fine folks at F.W. may have asked if they'd wanted lights installed, to which they answered yes. When the kart bodies arrived, the wiring for said lights would have been nice and neat, with wiring clamps fiberglassed right into the body, right? Check this out:
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    This body has the metal clips glassed right in, like they were born there! It has been routed very neat, and the installer used junction blocks at each end. Very professional. The headlights are convex, cut lenses and all, like they were made for go kart headlights.

    Let's also pretend that they ordered these as only bodies, and they weren't sure what chassis they were going to put them on, or how it would fit. Maybe they'd order them with the "leg hole" uncut...where someone at the mold facility may have noted that on the body after it was molded. Something like this:
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    That says "Do Not Cut" right under the seat. Also, note that my body does not have the two bolts/screws/whatever below the door cutouts, which I'm assuming is how the body is attached to the chassis on the other 5 out there. There is also no sign of these holes having ever been there when I look inside the body, either.
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    The funky spots in the fiberglass are where some of the wiring clips were pulled out at some point, and are not in the correct position to be the mounting holes in question.

    Now, I'm FOR SURE not saying that I have anything more than a Scout that was modified after the fact, but it sure appears to be on the up-and-up to me. That said, it means more to me to have one as it should be, if it were actually ordered through IH as a Mini SSII, and so that is how it will be rebuilt. It does make me curious as to the original use of this one in particular.

    To be certain, the lights/grill/etc are not without their booty-fabbed flaws. Check out the bathtub sealant around the grill and headlights:
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    I'm very much looking forward to checking out John Glancy's next month at the Nationals, so I can see what else is questionable on this...like the leg hole cut-out, which I feel like is going to have been hacked since it looks rough around the edges.

    We'll see!
     
  4. Mike Moore

    Mike Moore Dreams of Cub Cadets

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    Alright, I figured I'd update this thread since we're getting some progress done on the Scout Junior.

    We got all of the holes filled and some white and clear coat sprayed on it. Lynn Faeth has been trying to get his decal guys to make another set since they are in their computer already. Once I get those, I'll feel like I have gotten somewhere. I still need a chassis for it, but I really haven't looked too hard thus far. I need to start, though.:punk: Old Iron Off Road is working on a NHRA and NASCAR approved roll bar for it, too.:yes:

    The rough texture on the "bed" area is actually snow. The paint looks really great on it all!

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  5. SCscoutguy

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    Mike you should really make a mold of that thing and start reproducing them as part of Scoutco's product line.
     
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    Robert JetFxr High Wheeler

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    X2 on the mold I would ponny up a stupid amount for one.
     
  7. Don Bellamy

    Don Bellamy Farmall Cub

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    Extremely kewl Mike.
    I really don't have any info to add but I had saved a few pics from the net over the years, some that were posted here and this one.
    I wish i could thanks whoever this is
     

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    This is a great video showing these carts
    http://www.superscoutspecialists.com/store/pc-1692-44-international-truckscout-special-dvd-a.aspx
     

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  9. Mike Moore

    Mike Moore Dreams of Cub Cadets

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    Don...I'd pretty much saw off one of my legs in trade for one of those metal pedal cars like that. I saw one in Lancaster, PA at an IH show once. IIRC, it was in the back of a C-Series (30's C, not 60's C) soft side panel truck. I'd remove my other leg for that C, BTW.:)
     
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    hiwy50 Farmall Cub

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    Mike-- Seeing the christmas photo posted I now believe there were some made without the decals and roll bar. The five known complete ones are the only ones I have seen. Probly will be after the holiday before a letter I sent you yesterday is delivered. Copied the letter from manufacturer and Part of owners manual showing frame and part numbers. If you study the frame drawing you will see the holes for mounting the body, two on each side, two on cowl/hood area and heavy brace across back the roll bar is mounted to. Four of the bodies have the roll bar behind the seat, mine has the roll bar mounted behind the engine. Great to see the photo posted.
    Richard
     
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  12. Mike Moore

    Mike Moore Dreams of Cub Cadets

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    Richard, the Christmas pic is of a metal pedal car Scout 80. These are not to be confused with our fiberglass go-karts, which are a good bit larger, in addition to being the Scout II body.

    On the dude making his own...wow!:rockon:
     
  13. SSIIbuild

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    So you got that mold made and started producing new ones yet?:tt2:

    Saw a 800 pedal car in an auction listing once but many states away and didn't inqure.
    Now I am kicking myself.
     
  14. Tom Mandera

    Tom Mandera Dreams of Cub Cadets

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    Here's Joel Brodsky in Richard's SSII at RMIHR in 2004.

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    My 5 and 2.5 year old daughters would love a SII go-kart to run around the field with.. they have to settle for abusing a Barbie Jeep instead. :(
     
  15. Rudy

    Rudy Farmall Cub

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    Just got it last night and all ready for Christmas morning. I think my girls will really enjoy their new Scout! Just like dad's. :)
     

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  16. Bill USN-1

    Bill USN-1 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Looks good. Where did ya get it?
    It has an upgraded engine and tires.
    Mine was originally white also.
     
  17. Jeff Jamison

    Jeff Jamison Lives in an IH Dealership

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    You have good luck on finding rare things .One day I will have to come see your collection.
    Jeff
     
  18. John Glancy

    John Glancy Farmall Cub

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    Rudy got it from Terry Hankins and he is lucky Terry forgot he made deal with me on it! But i didnt push it since it was Rudy and going to a good home!

    JG
     
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    did anyone ever make a mold to start repoping these?

    tia

    mac
     
  20. Bill USN-1

    Bill USN-1 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Not that I know of.
    I have plans to do it but business has gotten in the way of my projects.
    Mike is supposed to repop all the decals for it.
     

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