Scout 800 Frame Differences

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  1. Gary Billings

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    This thread is a pictorial guide to show the differences between a ('65,'66-ish) Scout 800 4 cylinder frame and a ('69,'70ish) Scout 800 V8 frame.

    Here are the two frames side by side. 4 cylinder frame on the left, V8 frame on the right.
     

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    The fronts of the frames. Notice the 4 cylinder frame has the front crossmember set back and the V8 crossmember is right at the front.

    Also note, the front of the frames are lined up evenly.
     

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    The front floor mount areas. The body mounts on the v8 frame are further forward than the 4-cyl mounts. They also stick up above the frame about 1.5". The spring mounts are all in the same location.
     

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    The body mounts for the "step" behind the seats is identical between the two frames (V8 being farther forward). The V8 body mount is welded lower on that "step" to accomodate the lower body mount on the frame (because this mount is not 1.5" higher like the others on the frame, if that makes sense?)
     

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    The rear crossmember & body mount. Notice that the V8 frame is shorter than the 4-cyl frame. The rear crossmember is also taller on the v8 frame.
     

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    A good pic to show the differences in height between the V8 frame body mount and the 4 cylinder frame body mount.
     

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    And, finally, the motor mounts.

    V8 frame uses a flat pad and the 4-cyl frame uses a "wedge" type mount. Some 800a/b's with 4-cyl had the same mount as the V8 though.

    That's all I have, hope this makes a good reference.

    -Gary
     

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    Great reference, Gary! That 1.5" difference in body mount height must account for why th V8 800's look like they have a mild lift when compared to the 80's.

    Roy
     
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    So Gary,

    With the difference in body mounts for the tubs, do you think there is a difference in 4 cyl tubs and 8cyl tubs, or is the difference early and late production 800's?

    Or the questions might be, would a 67 4cyl tub bolt on a 71 8cyl frame without mods?
     
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    There's a big difference in the 4-cylinder & V8 tubs: the front inner fenders &front body mount. The front floor mounts are the same, the rear mounts are the same, but the "step" mounts are higher on the 4-cyl body. Other than that, they're the same.

    In this thread HERE, I'm in the process of converting a 4-cyl tub to a V8 tub. It's not too difficult, just time consuming.

    -Gary
     
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    Great Tech thread Gary!!
     
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    Great Thread.

    Thank you Gary.
     
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