Yep, I absolutely remember that thread. I need to go and hunt it down. It has been years since I've gone thru that thread. As I recall, the end results weren't exactly null, but they were definitely a far cry away from the desired results, and especially for the effort and materials expended. This stuff I've stuck in here now is, and is intended to be temporary, but I definitely need to hunt down that thread to reproduce the stuff, that did make a difference, for when my Scout is ready.