Inquiring About Some Red Iron

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  1. mjmck

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    Just went out with a little brake-kleen and it looks to be a 345 engine. Kinda surprised with being a 1 ton with the monster rear end it isn't a 392. Does anyone know what the lever is on the hump closest to the drivers feet? Assuming to enable 4wd?
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    Has to be the PTO lever. Same position as on my 65. Although it looks different than the ones I’ve seen. The transfer case shifter is on the right side of the trans tunnel.


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    Neat truck!

    Not surprising the engine isn’t a 392; mine’s a 304.


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    Ah good call. Forgot about that lever closer to the passenger footwell makes sense.
     
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    Another thing I noticed cruising around here is that many have manual locking hubs. My truck doesn't. I am assuming the front end is locked in 24/7, then fully locked when the transfer case lever is engaged?
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    Also are vintage style tires like these easy to find? They are 12-16.5LT. I don't seem to have much luck finding. Want to keep this thing as original as possible. I assume nothing like this will be a radial either. Sucks as these tires have tons of tread but are very dry rotted (in-my-opinion unsafe for road use)
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    Correct. Called drive flanges
     
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    Is it advantageous to convert to manual lock-outs?
     
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    It will save the abnormal tire wear associated with driving it locked on dry pavement. Given your intended use that may not be an issue.
    There isn’t much available in a 16.5 tire of any kind and what I saw in that size were all tractor and skid steer rated. Not for highway speeds. Could be very hard to find them in LT.


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    At one time I salvaged a very wide straight axle from a trailer that had been set on a foundation to use as an office. It had hubs at the end and 16.5" tires mounted on disassemble-able rims, IIRC. I forget the tire width, but the ratings were high...8 or 10 ply ratings, I believe. Complete axles w/ tires were valued at almost nothing then, and I had too little room so got rid of it finally. You might check for one around there.
     
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    Search the size. A few LT tires will pop up. Good size tires and good size in price. Probably best to compare and see if it'd makes sense to swap out the rims.
     
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    Thanks all, kinda what I was afraid of. What is the lug pattern for this truck and what swaps on easily? Would like to keep it OEM looking. Maybe I will just get a temporary set to run the truck next year.
     
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    Edited my search and there they are. STA makes a pretty good match. About $500 ea. Really comes down to how much you are willing to spend for the stock look.


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    I had 16.5's back in the day. Kinda of a goofy size to get tires for IIRC. That was the late 90's.
     
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    The 16.5's were the early tubeless size. Our 70 1210 had them . IIRC the 58 2 1/2 ton w/22's had the 1/2 size as well. Guessing it was to ensure the right tires went on the right rims back then. Never realized it but guess by the late 90's it would have been an oddball size.
    Might be corrected but I believe older model F250/350 would work. (99 and up will not)
     
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    This may or may not be relevant to your intended uses, but NEVER run 16.5's aired down-- they'll come right off the rim because of the configuration of the bead.
     
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    Unfortunately that just isn't in the cards right now. We need brakes and axle seals first.
     
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    Ok thank you. I think pre super duty was american bolt pattern and and post was metric if I recall.
     
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    Yeah no worries. This will be a road truck. One of the tires has a slow leak and I was driving over to the compressor and blew the bead. Luckily got it reseated.
     
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    Ford wheels will fit,most older dodge will also,chevys center hole is to small.I use ford from 80s into the 90's 16 inch wheels,and the factory hub caps fit most.
     
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