Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4

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  1. mongocanfly

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    Jeff...i have no idea...im at a loss here...biggest thing is I dont know how it's supposed to work..
    And I know what your saying about the P being hot all the time...dont make sense..
    From my research.. P is for park mode..what makes the wipers go down and stop in that position..
    I have no idea what A and F are supposed do or why I'm getting the readings im getting ..
    Heres some more pics that may help or confuse...
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  2. Jeff Jamison

    Jeff Jamison Lives in an IH Dealership

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    Well the P being hot all the time makes sense now,the diagram shows internal connection with a breaker.I would say the new switch will not work properly.I would try to open the old one and clean the contacts.
     
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    yeah...ive about decided the new switch wont work either...not much lost , it didn't cost much
     
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    Greg-

    Looks like you're getting a lot of "resistance" from the new switch!!!

    Sorry. That's a geeky ohms electrical joke.
     
  5. mongocanfly

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    Matthew..I feel like this whole truck is full of ohms....everything I do is resisiting me..haha
     
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    I don’t think Elon was born yet in ‘57 but I suspect your issue is that you need to connect the P terminal to the auto rain sensing circuit.


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    You know Ed might be on to something there.Is your rain sensor always hot or always cold.
     
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    right now the sensor is hot....extra hot...haha
     
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    how bad is the heat and humidity in the south..?
     
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    Snow in June is kinda hard to take in my neck of the woods, but I'll take it any day over the humidity (and bugs) you "easterners" have to face!
     
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    1st off let me thank all that helped with the wiper switch, thru replys and pms..
    I did as suggested and tried one wire at a time with the old switch..
    Glory be...everything worked just as it should...
    The park position worked.
    Hi speed works..
    Lo speed works...but only if A and F are both connected..
    So I hooked up all 3 wires and ran the switch thru all the positions...everything worked..
    Better than it did before teardown..
    Maybe the cleaning I've given everything did some good..
    So I'll be using the old orig switch afterall..
    On a side note , the new switch only had off and high speed...no lo or park...so it wont work..

    Heres the diagram with the switch position and what they do...and I verified the voltage readings while it was running....still not sure how the lo spd works with A and F both having 12v..but it works.
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    ("Snow in June is kinda hard to take in my neck of the woods, but I'll take it any day over the humidity (and bugs) you "easterners" have to face!")...
    I hear ya Ed..!!!
     
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    Now that I know everything is in working order, I decided to take apart and clean the drive gears and contacts...everything looks good on the inside, but was nasty,,

    and there was 2 big globs of a greasy like substance sitting on top of the brass contact plate along with some grit and dirt...I sprayed it all down with electric contact cleaner....I'm pretty sure the grease is some type of dielectric grease...but it looks like axle grease...it is over 60yrs old after all....do I need to put more dielectric on the plate before I put it back together?...

    I put a touch of lithium grease on the shaft where it passes thru the housing...the worm gear is metal and the worm wheel is plastic so I assume it doesnt need any lube on it...I did clean all the dirt and grease out of the teeth...
    So do I need grease?
    Pics of the Inside...red circles are where the balls of grease were..
    Pics of the grease also..
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    Greg, I can't even look at all the last posts with that pesky wiring activity. But, I am glad that you got it all sorted out HAHA

    If it were me, I would dab the grease back in there.

    JJ in TN
     
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    Put the wiper motor back together..added the dielectric grease to it..so it should be good to go..

    ...they finally got us some help on the off shift at work so that should help ease up on the overtime some...thank goodness..This was my long weekend off from work....But I spent the whole weekend doing mostly notruck stuff...its just so dang hot/humid...miserable i tell ya..
    Still got a little more wiring done though...i needed to put the front end together so I could route the headlight/turn signal wiring in and around the various places it goes...so I grabbed a pic of it in place...hopefully this wont have to come back off..
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    Super exiting to see it going back together!

    Are those the tires that you're gonna use? How wide are they? They look a bit wider than the tall and skinny tires you usually see on these things. By the way, do you know what the most common tire size was on these late 50's trucks? I know my 68 came with 7X15's, and I was wondering if these guys came with taller tires. I know they started making the trucks shorter in the 60's, so I wouldn't be surprised if they changed to smaller tires as well.
     
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    Johnny, those are the tires I'm gonna use...
    they are 255/85-16 bfgs..they are considered as tall and skinny as you can get..these tires are 33in tall,..10in wide
    The original tires on orig Columbus were 7x16-31s..the donor truck had 7x17.5s-31s...
    So the new tires are only 2in taller than the old bias plys...and 3in wider
     
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    Holy grease turd batman!

    That truck is looking gorgeous!
     
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    Thanks Johnny and 6bt..!!
    Gotta get the cab and doors painted...but it's just so freaking hot/humid...its hard to wear the tyvek and paint when your sweating like you got a water hose hanging over your head...
     
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    Now we're talking..... Columbus is starting to look like a truck again! And a nice one to boot.

    But perhaps you should rub some 240 grit on the grill surround (or at least some mud or bugs or whatever 3M makes) to help dull that shine. The paint looks hazy from all that bling! Or is that the 99% humidity you keep whining about? It's a very pleasant 49 degrees this morning at my house. Ahhhhhhhhhhhh.
     

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