Columbus..the 1957 IH 4x4

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  1. MrKenmore

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    And you guys want me to move to Alabama and Arkansas! It's hot here as well! Going to the shop today. No AC. Going to be fun. Stay cool out there (if that's possible).
     
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    That is a fact right there! Hot and soaked. Come on Matthew it’s not that bad !

    JJ in TN


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    I did a semester at the University of Cost Rica, and worked claims ofter hurricane Rita in Beaumont, TX, so I've lived that. That's how I know how much I hate it.
     
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    Haha...you just got a taste of it Chris....live here for 50+yrs...haha...
     
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    Still pulling wires....just going slow and taking my time....thanks to the super heated shop....
    I decided to go with this switch for the heater fan...its a 2 speed switch...Cole hersee 68028..
    But I could do without that fancy little creme colored knob...I tried using the orig IH knob but the set screw that holds it on the stem was messed up...the new switch shaft is threaded and the old switch shaft is smooth round..
    So I started working on saving the knob.....I wasnt sure how I was gonna do it...
    Thought about filling the hole with jbweld or making a Insert...I was gonna try jb first so I tried drilling the center hole out on the old knob...well the insert spun out...so that settled it..
    I made a new insert and drilled and tapped it to 10-32...
    Gonna clean it up good and put some 2 part epoxy on the new insert and press it in...hopefully itll hold together...
    Pics are new heater fan switch and old knob with old insert, the new one I made, and the brass one from the new crème switch knob..the middle one is the one I'll use...
    sure wish I could find a good quality set of knobs...the old ones are showing their age
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    I'm also gonna replace the wiper switch..when I was testing the old switch, I was getting some weird readings with the fluke meter, so I decided to just go new on it as well ..
    heres the switch I have on the way...again, ill be replacing the knob with my orig IH knob
    Part # GH-1112-71 / Wiper Switch
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    heres the old switch...
    so heres a question for anybody that's been here before...how do I hook the wiper motor wiring to the new switch..
    the new switch connections are self explanatory with B,L,H,P
    the terminals on the old switch are lettered F,A,P...and B
    I assume the P is for park mode, but am unsure of which is high and lo...the wiper motor has a green, red ,black wire from it to the switch
    the B wire on the switch is my 12v supply...
    the colored dots are where the motor red,black,green wires plug in
    could I assume the wires would be in the same location on both switches?
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    Nice work Greg! :thumbs up: Ok I’m basing this off of the SII switch/motor but I think it applies. The red wire is hot only in low so F goes to L. The black wire is hot in low and high so A goes to H. Green to P.

    We just had our first day below 100 in quite a while. I just turn my swamp cooler on in the garage and pretend I’m in the deep south!!
     
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    thanks Jay...
    that's kinda what I was seeing with the meter...
    switch off I could read yellow to green only
    1st click I could read from yellow to black.green, and red
    2nd click I could read yellow to black and green...but not red
    but the ohms were jumping around all over the place like there was a bad internal contact...
    the wipers sorta worked before I tore the truck down...maybe the new switch will get um moving
     
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    Too many wires for me. Yuck. You're my hero to figure all of that out. On the knobs, have you considered reaching out to maybe Dan Hayes at the Binder Boneyard? That dry western climate might have been nicer on the bakelight(?) if so. Seems like I have seen those used in something else too just can't recall what. Will devote some thought to it.

    JJ in TN
     
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    JJ...your close...but its zero instead of hero...haha..
    I really hate wiring but I'll have to admit the AA wire kit is almost idiotproof...
    Biggest issue is figuring out where to route the wires...
    On the knobs, all I've done is watched ebay... they're in ok shape to be 60+yrs old...but would be nice if I could find some nos ones...haha... yeah right...
    I've given thought to making a set...dont think it would be to hard...but that would be way down the road..
     
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    I believe ash trays in the 60s had knobs like that.
     
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    I deleted the ash tray when I did the dash work..the handle was broken but it was similar to the yr or 2 earlier style...just the knob part...the cover was completely different..
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    The knobs sorta remind me of the 800 ones too. But there is another application I am sure of it. We all know that IH bought out stuff from other manufacturers and sprinkled that into their crazy. Greg I did think of someone who might be able to help you, Ill PM you.

    JJ in TN
     
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    Man this heat and humidity...its bad
    I'm really hating it...I'm not sure I remember it being this bad...if I stand in one spot for 5min it looks like you poured a gallon of water on the floor...
    I've been changing clothes 4-5 times a day...taking 2-3 showers a day..work about 30min then cool off for 30min... drinking water like crazy..
    I actually poured water/sweat out of my shoes today ...no kidding.....I got tired of my shoes squishing when I walked
    Now for truck stuff
    I've got most of the wiring run...I'm working on cleaning it up, bundling it, and putting wire loom over the wires where possible...trying to make it look somewhat neat...
     
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    glad to hear you say that, I thought I was the only one who thought it was hotter than usual this year. I have been changing clothes in the laundry room, just throwing them straight into the washer. Its all t shirts and shorts and socks and shoes.

    JJ in TN
     
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    That's unreal. I'm pretty sure I'd lose the will to live.

    Hero. Seriously.
     
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    JJ, I do the same thing...my washer/dryer is in the shop by the door...I leave the wet stuff in the washer and head straight to the shower..!!!
    I don't know if its hotter but the humidity sure seems worse....

    its pretty bad Chris..
    ive been trying to do most of my work from around 9pm-2am on my days off...but even that don't help much
     
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    Delima time...
    I need a electromagician...
    I got a new universal wiper switch..
    When I was testing the old switch for ohms, it was bouncing all over..
    The new switch came in but I wasnt getting the same readings...
    So I hooked up both switchs to 12v and below are the readings..
    Before I hook this up my question is will the new switch work?
    I dont want to let the smoke out of my wiper motor if I can help it..
    So heres pics of both switches and the results...
    Pos-off....1st click....2nd click
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    Not without relays,it all makes sense except the P,I thought that only has power when shut off.I dont know how yours in suppose to work but why would they put the P terminal there if its always hot.
     

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