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  1. jmait769

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    :banana:WOW!!! :banana: Looks amazing! I’m sure you are always wearing a smile when you back that out of the garage!! :thumbs up: :thumbs up: :thumbs up:
     
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    Thanks for the nice words!! I'm working out a few bugs, but that's the fun part. So, here is a bug! My driver side spring is sagging? Do I need new springs or? Here's picture showing the sag. Drivers side is like 28 deg. and the passenger side is about 17 deg. Would a new spring on DS cure the problem?
     

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    I was going to ask about the spring bushings and body mount bushings but looking back on about page 6 it looks like you replaced all of them. Where those the original springs?
     
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    Everything has been changed? I think the drives side spring is just old? They are the original springs. Ty for the reply!
     
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    Man that thing looks great you did a great job on it.

    AD
     
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    Thanks AD!

    Question to Everybody. what size spring goes on the transmission that pulls throw-out bearing and anybody have picture of where the two ends on the spring connect?
     
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    Great looking.rig. You did an awesome job! Sorry I can't answer your question,but I m sure somebody will.
     
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    Well, I not sure but here is a pic of TOB. It's showing pic. of Tob and linkage. I greased the TOB more
    (hope this helps). The first pic. has close-up of bearing and at bottom of pic it shows I think the retaining clip that in the manual says to remove? I called clutch rebuilder and he said there is no clip to remove; so, can anybody lead me in the right direction?
     

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    ANYBODY? How would you go about finding the problem?
     
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    I'M BACK!
    Still on the clutch rattle; so, I've removed t/c and trans. I was thinking Throw out bearing? New TOB is in good? so, here is two pictures taken as close to square on as I can get. Does anybody see anything? clu.jpg clu 1.JPG
     
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    ANYBODY? Also, can you remove and replace pilot bushing with the clutch and PP bolted up?
     
  12. jmait769

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    Where did you get the clutch and pressure plate? Not really a manual tranny expert as I’m just going by pics here but it looks like the clutch and pressure plate is for a 4 cylinder?

    4 Cylinder

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    8 cylinder

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    I did some investigations on clutch I have. I got a 11" 1800 Ih code 11215 (according to the manual and picture).
    I got my lineset ticket out and that is what it came from the factory with according to IH codes.

    It doesn't call for removing any clips? I'm glad I didn't get the big hammer out :-(
     
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    Ok I see now. Glad you did not force anything!! Since it only rattles with clutch pedal pushed in, and if it did not make this sound before rebuild, I wonder if the pressure plate was rebuilt/setup properly? Also look at the manual under trouble shooting for “Rattling Clutch” for some other ideas. I hope you don’t mind but I uploaded your clutch rattle video so others may listen:

     
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    I think you either have a bad throw out bearing or the retainer is bad, or the bearing wasn't correctly pressed onto the retainer, or the retainer wasn't correctly mounted in the forks.

    Can you shift through gears? If so, then you at least know that the clutch disc is installed correctly.

    Also, you might want to post up your video in the tech talk section. It will get more traffic there...
     
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    To my eye, it seems the throw out bearing fork is off center.
     
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    It shifts fine and throw out bearing seams just fine? I have everything out of the scout on the shop floor; so, how do i check to see if its lined up correct without putting everything back in? I want to find problem before I button it back up (It's not the fun's job in the world)
    Thanks for everybody's help!!
     
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    Question for the clutch pros. I have a 345 motor with the three speed transmission. When I owned a Terra the 345 motor in it had a thin spacer between the starter and mounting surface? I don't have that spacers on this 345? Could that be the source of my noise? When I push the clutch in could something be hitting the starter and making the rattling sound?
     
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    Shouldn't. Spacers are for the auto 727 ONLY
     
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    New Info.
    AS I'm pulling my hair out over this rattle I found my old throw out bearing, and compared it against the new bearing?
    Well, I've found the new bearing about 3/16 to 1/4" larger than the old bearing plus 1/8" wider (thick)? Do you think could be my problem? My old bearing number is 2005 - II and the new bearing number is 2242?
     

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