Anyone Know What Was Written on My 1310 Frame?

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  1. Chris Cooper

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    I’m guessing it might be a warning about welding the frame, but I can’t tell:

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    That looks like 'frame flange'. Is there more before it?
    Dean
     
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    I'm with Dean. What I can see looks like frame flange, but I'm sure I see more in front of it
     
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    I believe it was a warning about not welding on the frame flange
     
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    Know very little about proper welding procedures or frame work but do recall warnings like that on frame rails about drilling and/or welding.
    Found this with a search.....

    Frame Repair and Reinforcement: General Rules Specific frame repair and reinforcement procedures vary depending on circumstances and materials. The general guidelines outlined here, however, are very important and apply to virtually all repair and reinforcement situations. • Always identify the material that makes up the base rail. Reinforcement should be of the same or better material than the base rail. • Make sure that only fully trained, qualified specialists perform frame straightening and other repairs. • Always try to identify the cause of the failure. • Do not attach fifth wheels or body and accessory mountings through frame flanges. Refer to GM Body Builders Manual for additional information. • Do not drill holes in top or lower flanges. • Use only proper electrodes as specified for base rail material when welding is necessary. • Do not use oxyacetylene welding equipment on frames. • Do not weld reinforcements across the frame flanges. • Do not weld within 19 mm (0.75 in.) of the edge of a frame flange.
     
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    Too late for that: that frame has full-height plates welded to it from underneath the cab to just forward of the rear spring pivot. The quality of cuts on those plates tell me this was done at the McCabe-Powers shop where this truck was modified into a utility or bucket truck. The chicken-poop welds say otherwise though, like it was done by its later fire-zone owner.
     
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    I imagine there used to be, but rust has made it impossible to tell.
     
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    Because of old school law " don't weld vertically on a frame, only horizontally.
     
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    From what you see done to frames , kinda figured it was a mfg CYA thing.
     
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    There's not much extra strength designed into many c-channel frames so if the flange(s) is compromised it can fold up. Just like an I-beam the flanges are a large part of it's strength.
    There are similar warnings in the light line manuals.
     
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    In the service manual in the section on frames there are very specific guidelines for welding the frame. The frames on most IH trucks are made out of heat treated steel. As such,heating them can destroy the temper of the metal. One of the rules is to use only arc welder (SMAW, MIG,TIG), but never use oxyfuel welding. There are additional guidelines for frame repair such replacement sections in by cutting at a 45 degree angle and reinforce them with channel stock, plug welded in place. I imagine you would rarely if ever want to simply weld something to the frame. It creates a weak spot on the frame that could fail under load. (My strategy to attach things to the frame has always been to find existing holes and make a bracket, bolted in place with grade 8 hardware.)
     
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    i have same thing on frame of my 51 L-120 panel truck.
     
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