'74 scout II floor replacement and more!

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  1. Jeff W

    Jeff W Farmall Cub

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    Picked up this rusty scout a couple months ago and have been busy excising cancer. Lots of grinding wheels and sweeping the garage later I am finally replacing steel. Here are a few pics of the progress. I'll try to keep the thread regularly updated. Thanks for watching
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  2. Jeff W

    Jeff W Farmall Cub

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    Started this thing last night...:wacko:...Too cheap to buy a new one, haha
     

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    I think that'll work! A little grinding and will tac it on 59943683117__C1EF1A2B-070B-4116-AFD1-F4C5D0EBB761.jpg 59943889826__1198CF17-E18B-46A0-A847-2F37C6348BAA.jpg 59943903118__1DBA0115-83C6-479D-904E-B4361DB564AB.jpg
     
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    Looking good!
     
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    Cool. Is a guy making rear ribbed floor beds for D-series in Pa., i think. He maybe able to make for S2s also ?
     
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    Needs a few more tweaks 59952130550__4BBBE119-F0BA-4BC9-9E21-5CE0B920171C.jpg
     
  7. Jeff W

    Jeff W Farmall Cub

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    Hey Justutt67, I am looking at your build and did 1X3 rect tube for the front body mount. Do you have pics of how you lined up the tubing you used? Im thinking of lining up the top for the floor then adding contour for the frame mount to lay flat.
     
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    Check out Belltown Build thread, I think I recall him using tubing in place of the wedge mount...
     
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    Thanks...I am following that one too. Not great pics of that particular part though...I DMd him
     
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    I have asked a couple of you for advice and am grateful for your replies...here are some pics of what I am dealing with. Some more experienced input would be awesome!

    Here's the front mount tacked in front mountpass.JPG

    This is my plan...maybe...(1x3x1/8 rect tube) cut out the red lines, pry them out parallel to the frame mount and fill in with weld then drill out the top, weld in a sleeve for recessed bolt and gussets at the ends...Thoughts?...not necessary effort?
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    Here is my main dilemma....putting the doors back on to check for alignment. The passenger side door adjustments seem easy enough with all the gaps being very close with little effort. However, the drivers side is a different story. I've measured the door frame multiple times and it seems square. The door itself is off by about an 1/8" from front to back hight-wise. The problem is when no matter how I adjust it the bottom of the door nearly hits the rocker and the top/rear of the door sits right on the bottom lip of the top at the back of the door frame...no room for adjustment.
    Further details:
    The rocker is perfectly level with the trans tunnel
    A and B pillars are perpendicular to the rocker and equidistant at top and bottom of door opening.

    Am I missing something?...this seems to be my biggest hold up currently!
    Passenger rocker/door gap
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    Driver rocker/door gap
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    Hi Jeff, It looks like you did the 1X3 the same way I did. I didn’t cut any reliefs in mine though. Not sure why your LT door is doing that though. The only thing I can see that I did differently is I fit my door gaps and welded in a door opening brace to the pinch weld prior to cutting out any metal. I mounted the front fender to the Apillar and got the door to match the fender then put a floor jack under the rocker at the A pillar and jacked it up till the back of the door was level with the quarter panel. Once it was level I welded in the door opening brace so nothing would move while I replaced rust. I hope that makes sense
     
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    If you can stand it, look through my build because I mated the front half of the scout to a brand new rear half basically with no reference. It starts on page 3.. Justtuut is correct about mounting the front fender and getting an eye for the entire sight line from rear of quarter, across the top of the door to top of fender, and bracing.

    At this point it's time to take a break, step back, take some diagonal measurements, and weld in some bracing. start with " splitting the scout down the middle" measurement wise. Then work off of what you are seeing on the passenger side. also do diagonals to the TOP of the door hinge jambs
     
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    Thanks for the info...Yes, it makes total sense...most guys will do that unless they're like me and got a little excited about tearing out rust before thinking of it...hahaha! I have figured out that measurements are for reference only on scouts since everything is so far off from side to side! The driver side door didnt shut well when I bought it, but i figured it was the crappy bondo job on the B pillar dogleg...maybe there is more to it??? Think Im just going to detatch the dog leg and lower the rear of the rocker a bit to open the gap top to bottom...idk, hope it works!
     
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    Thanks Jrc55...Ive looked over your thread many times! its amazing! I did bolt the top one before removing the floor hoping that would keep things mostly straight, at least side to side and front to back. The rockers and rear doglegs needed repairs so I think I'll start back at those points and remeasure everything. If all else fails, I'll start over, at least on the driver side
     
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    You'll get it man. I had probably the hardest time right where you are at. That was the hardest part of the build because everything later, builds on the foundation.
     
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    Where part of the country are you in Jeff?
     
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    right in the middle of Iowa...currently burried in snow:(
     
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    I'm no pro and a little behind you with mine. My front cab mounts gave up the ghost ~25 years ago and she had a serious sag in the middle. The doors closed, but I think the PO did some "tweaking" to get them there. I jacked up the front of the rocker to get everything close then adjusted the doors. On the driver's side, I adjusted it as high as I could, but it was still ~1/16" low, but parallel. I think something is going on with my hinges-- either they are bent or need new pins. Maybe you could completely remove the hinge bolts on the door side and see if that will get you there. Or, take out the hinges completely, grab a couple buddies, and see if it will sit in then. Just spitballing.
     
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    Good suggestions...I havent had a lot of time recently to check things. I still have 2 good floor mounts so the rocker shouldnt be too far off. I think I'll get my front mounts in and use specers to set it all down evenly and see what happens first. I can see where jacking up the front could help, however with the top bolted on and the rear dogleg attatched it all kinda moves together. I dont have any clearance between the rocker and top of the door where it meets the top. Hinges are all good...I did repair the top driver before trying fitment. Hopefully Ill get back to it in a day or two.
     
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    I'm still working on cab mounts and got the fronts fabricated and tacked in tonight.

    Quick questions: In the pic below the measurements are as shown. IS THIS NORMAL?
    I've heard they need to be parallel but I never disturbed the two middle mounts or A pillar, so there doesn't seem to be a way they could be so far off. Experienced Insight would be appreciated.


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    Here's what I'm doing for the front cab mounts...I recessed the bottom of the mounts to sit parallel with the frame mount.

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    And this leads me to my final question....It seems like the angled part of the floor is meeting the mount hole too close...Have you guys that have used this mount style had similar issues? (SEE BELOW)

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    Thanks for looking...and any advice!
     

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