727 to T19 tc question

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  1. Arkantex

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    Hey everyone. I am swapping from a 727 to a T19 in my 78 Scout ii. I have the T19 with bull gear, the pedals and linkages. My question is, will the tc off the auto trans bolt up with my t19 with just the bull gear or is there something else needed? I’m trying to make sure I have everything together before I immobilize my scout.

    PS- the T19 came out of a scout ii. Thanks
     
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    Hey Arkantex, I'm interested in the same thing. What are you doing about the bell housing?
    Rd
     
  3. Arkantex

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    I
    have a t19 bell housing and clutch assembly off a scout ii
     
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    What are you doing with your auto pedal setup? I am doing the opposite--switching to a 727 and looking for a pedal box
     
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    TF727 and T18/19 Bull Gears are different. They look very close, but are cut at different angles. Be sure to match the XFR case to the proper one or it'll be a bad day.
     
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    Ha! I missed that first sentence completely...You'll be ok. I have done this swap.
     
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    NO and yes, it depends on the year, not the transmission, true the auto gear will NOT fit the manual, but the later manual gears are the same pitch as the 727 auto gears.
    read this to see what works with what.
    https://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge/gear-table/
    click on the chart and it will widen out so you can read it.
     
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    Thanks guys. I don't know which year the t19 came out of so I guess I will have to check the angle on the bull gear and compare it to the novak website. Thanks for the link WRENCH MAN
     
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    The T-19 I have the bull gear for the Dana 20 was completely different from the bull gear for the Dana 300.

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    My scout has a dana 20 and the t19 I bought was bolted up to a dana20. Hopefully I will get some free time to play in the shop this weekend an get it all figured out.
     
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    So I pulled the d20 out of my scout and bolted it up to the t19 no problem. I spun the input shaft on the trans and went through 2, 4 high and 4 low. Didn’t feel anything or hear anything abnormal. Is the difference in gear angle minor or so different that they won’t mesh together?
     
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    From what I’ve seen here, it is minor but will become apparent from the howling coming from under your truck as you are driving. Best to check part numbers to determine compatibility
     
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    If you look at the T-19 bull gear it WILL have a "18-8-XX" number stamped in it, look at the chart I linked above and see if the number is one of the 17.5* gears, if it is you're good to go, if not you'll need ti find the right gear.
     
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    Well, the bull gear on the auto that is coming out is a 18 8 56 and the one on the t19 is 18 8 55. According to novak’s Website, they are both 17.5
     
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    That's good then the only difference being the internal splines.

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    If you wish to type the degrees symbol °, simply hold down the 'option' key and the 'shift key' then hit the number '8' key. °°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°
     
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    Now I admit that I am PPC, BUT, I don't even HAVE an "option key" on my keyboard. Unless that is a different name for some other key?
     
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    Yes, I have a MacBook. °°°
    A Windows based computer uses a different key(s) and a minute of experimenting should determine the combination.
     
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    Onna Chromebook it's CTRL+SHIFT+U, then 00b0 + ENTER ... all that just to insert a °. Sheesh.
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    Ouch !! °°°°
     

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