$34K Scout 800 for sale?

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  1. Quilmes

    Quilmes Farmall Cub

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  2. Mike Moore

    Mike Moore Dreams of Cub Cadets

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    That's not a $34k Scout for sale...it is a Scout for sale for $34k.

    Call me crazy, but at that price, I would like to have at least a speedometer. Heat would be nice, too...but at least a speedo. Still looking at the pics for the "dual exhaust" that the listing is bragging up, too...:no:

    Evidently, a half-hearted LS conversion makes a Scout worth a lot. I'll remember that.:clap:
     
  3. 72soa

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    Are they getting more expensive. I think so. Some of the up in price is being driven by the higher scrap metal prices. The internet has amped up the greed factor. Then the Barrett Jackson syndrome with a bunch of Viagra intoxicated babyboomers with more money than sense has totally warped the old car market. Some of the prices of those vehicles is just insane. A 1970 hemi Cuda is a very cool car but it should never be anywhere close to commanding a six figure price when you can go down to the dealer and buy a SRT Challenger for a fraction of the price that will dominate the 1970 vintage vehicle in every performance test you can think of. That truck on e-bay is at best a $10,000 vehicle. I don't see anywhere near the price they want. 10 bolt axles? Chevy V-8? What is so rare about that stuff. What does a chevy v-8 do for a scout anyhow? You have a big box and a high center of gravity. That engine should have been left in the Camaro where it belongs. I will admit to being a purist but in a scout give me an SV any day.
     
  4. Fred Demmon

    Fred Demmon Y-Block King

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    Got to disagree on 2 points
    1. scrap price is down....way down
    2. As you stated, ANYONE can go down and buy a new Challanger. But having the ability to drive a 70's mucscle car is just not compareable
    Do I think a Cuda is a 6 figure car, it is if someone is willing to pay it.

    Remember when selling something your asking price can be what ever you want.
    But that doesn't mean you will get it
    Most people will start high(sometimes crazy high) hoping that some schmuk will over pay.
    That is capitolizum at its best.
    I am not a purist, I think "it's yours, do what makes you happy"
    That's just me
     
  5. Bruce Shealy

    Bruce Shealy Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    Scrap here is rock bottom, when scrap was 14.00 per 100lbs the yards here went to crushing like crazy, its 5.00 per 100 now, car batteries were 15 bucks a piece now they are at 9.00. I agree that may be a 10K Scout, and that is a stretch, but it is true that our passion is on the rise as far as money goes. I used to buy non operable and junker Scouts for 300 or so, now they are 600 to 900. That seller is on crack asking for 34, but he is hoping for half that I am sure, there are crazy people who might pay that.
     
  6. jfulwider

    jfulwider Farmall Cub

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    That Scout will never sell at that price. People build these rigs and think they are going to get their money back, or even make a little. They are dead wrong. You don't build that to sell, you build that because it's what you want and dreamed of. Let's say he put in a crate motor and tranny from GM or a vendor of some sorts. That setup would run somewhere around 6k for the motor (probably low end there) and 2500 - 3k for the tranny. Another 1500 for the harness and PCM to run it. Then add the radiator, wheels and tires, paint, interior, shifter, etc. I'd say he has close to 20 grand invested and that's of everything were new. If he paid someone to do it then he has labor involved and it's in Arizona so there are a couple of shops that could have done it. So he is nuts thinking he is getting that kind of a price for that rig. Just my 2 cents....
     
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    I doubt he will get that asking price, but I bet someone will pick it up for close to that. I believe that television, specifically shows like Gas Monkey Garage and other wheel n' deal type shows, drive many peoples' unrealistic expectations on vehicle prices, both what they should pay and should be paid..

    Plus, if some guy gets ripped off when he purchases a vehicle, the first think he will do when he goes to sell is price it at or above the price he paid. He's convinced, at that point, that is the actual value (which it may be, who knows).

    That is a very pretty Scout 80, no doubt about it. I'm sure it's a blast to drive. However, not having the option to be enclosed, several things that aren't working (speedo, for instance), etc, make me think that only someone with way too much money on their hands will ever purchase it. If it were a daily driver and was being bought to be used as such, then why not drop that much coin if the modern equivalent would cost you the same (yes, I know... warranty, insurance, etc)? There's something to be said about driving an old vehicle, but I guess you guys already know that.
     
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    Just to beat a dead horse, this statement is completely wrong. I think Bruce said it, but scrap is currently at $5.00/100lbs, or $50.00 per thousand lbs, putting a scout somewhere between $180-220.00 as scrap, roughly. I actually was on the phone with several people trying to scrap a few vehicles today, one scout included. I was offered $200.00 each for the Scout, a Jeep Grand Cherokee, and a Ford Explorer by most people. Some were higher, some lower.

    I also don't see why, unless you're talking a matter of one or two hundred bucks, scrap metal prices should be relevant in the discussion about the increase in value of these old trucks. I mean, the Scout 80 in question is worth no more as scrap than another Scout 80 which has been rusting in a field for 5 years with a blown engine.
     
  9. Quilmes

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    I think this is good start to see what people on this forum like and think is acceptable for Scout prices. it is all in the eye of the buyer. He might not be marketing towards purist but an ample market that at this moment is paying silly money for off road vehicle. One thing we cannot argue with is that he did pick a great vehicle to start with.

    It is true, ask high and maybe get 70-80% of the price. Ask for actual price then he might get a lot lower then what he is willing to accept. Also a missing factor here is maybe they priced it that high not to sell as to tell the wife, See nobody wants to buy it, so I will keep it. ( I have seen this scenario in the high end exotica cars).

    As for the build, I like the fact that people keep some Scouts stock and other modify them to their personal taste. There are a few nice builds on this site.
    A light Blue one from Arizona and Orange one, that I love the work to detail especially the cage going thru the 800 dash. Two black ones one shinny that I think has very clean work, the other with a square type cage. I will load the photos for you guys to check it out, I am sure these rides are also commanding high dollars.

    I have a bone stock one 4cyl, and a slightly modified one with a 392 4spd. Next I want to build a modernized Scout, FI, modern suspension, etc.


    White one sold for $33K at Barrett,

    I would like to make it out to the SEMA show and take a few scouts in all forms to show off.
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    While we're on the subject of stuff not working, did anyone else see any windshield wipers? I saw none. Looked like a mall crawler to me.

    CAB
     
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  12. Jeff Jamison

    Jeff Jamison Lives in an IH Dealership

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    The vin tag is also missing on it.
    Jeff
     
  13. JordanAMC

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    If you really wanted a nice Scout on the East Coast tomorrow, $25k is really not that far out of line in my opinion. I personally don't have $25k laying around to invest in an old vehicle, and I do enjoy working on old vehicles (when I have time) so I guess I am on the payment plan, a little bit now, a little bit later, but will probably have more than $25k in it when it is all done.
     
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    I totally agree, which is what I tried to hint at in my earlier post. If I were looking for a new car to drive daily, and I had $25K, why would I not choose a fully restored (mechanically and cosmetically) Scout II over say a Jeep Compass? They're both essentially brand new, but one is a Jeep Compass (insert any 25Kish car).

    However, those Scout II's that Atlanta company has for sale are in my opinion waaaaayyy better than the $34,000.00 80 in the ebay ad this thread was started over. They have full tops, for instance, and everything else they came with from the factory (plus some extras). That 80 does not.
     
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    I've driven a few at the atlanta consigner, and yes they are pretty but drive pretty poorly, I think they are a bit over priced

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    Interesting observation about bad driving manners of those "pretty" scouts. Typical. Spend money on aesthetics and not on function. I would be willing to bet those scouts start to bubble up under the bondo within a year. Personally, I am appalled at the prices of scouts. I guess I have been into scouts for too long and I pine for the old days when nobody else wanted them. However, I still think the market for older vehicles is warped. The barn find trend is IMO silly. People paying big bucks for patina muscle cars that don't run or drive?
     
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    While I understand "do it yourselfers" feel the pricing of certain cars and trucks seems out of wack, the do sell - People are buying them. Wagoneers, Broncos, Blazers, Vintage Land Cruisers, FJ's and the even more rare Scout are all hot right now. Companies like ICON 4x4 are selling restomod versions in the $150,000 range and have back orders going out for 1.5 to 2 years... Not everyone is willing to wait. I have a buyer on St. Johns Island in Fl. for my scout as it sits for Three times what I paid and he'll handle all the shipping details. The region you're in has a lot to do with pricing as well - NYC area my car is worth way more than in Cali or Alabama, there just are not many rust free models in that region, and there is more available money and a higher desire to be different than everyone else.

    I'f you have completed a documented LSx swap, and your Scout is in relatively stock appearance meaning not lifted, no crazy bumpers with winch, has carpet, good seats, hidden jack, etc. - you are now in the $20,000+ club on the east coast... or much more with the right comfort upgrades like new AC, Cruise Control, unique gauge cluster, custom flooring and upholstery they have sold at dealers for $40k-$60k.

    People have to remember it only takes one buyer to make a car worth more than most people feel it is worth. Auctions do this all the time, and higher dollar buyer drive the market higher for periods of time - this Vintage SUV phase will pass and something else will replace it, the values will level out like they are for Rat Rods or bottom out like they have with Custom Choppers - if you want to sell your time is now - providing you fit what the market is looking for Daily Driver vintage SUV's that people can enjoy with their families at in Hamptons, Miami, Myrtle Beach, or Balboa Island... all places a local High End Vintage dealer in Chicago has shipped SUV's and a Truck to the last 4 weeks, each with LSx or coyote motor swaps priced over $45k (a '78 Scout II, a 1st gen Bronco, a '61 panel door Suburban, and a patina C10).

    Not saying the value of the trucks listed is "real" but the atlanta consigner talked about above is turning over stock - so I would think someone is buying from him or the owners are finding someone close enough to asking to make them happy.

    here is an article from the WSJ talking about this...

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  19. r_k_f

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    I'll admit, they definitely seem to always be on the front lines of pushing the prices up.... but I still might buy one of their Scouts lol.
     

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