300/400/500/800 Series Diesel Engine History

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  1. IHCollector81

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    Hi,

    Does anyone here have any complete history on the entire 300/400/500 series in-line six-cylinder diesel engines, which were both naturally-aspirated and turbocharged?

    Engines making up the 300/400/500 series 6-cyls.:
    D-312, sold from ??? to ???
    D-354, sold from 1960s-'70s
    D/DT-360, sold from 1988 to 1994
    D/DT-408, sold from ??? to ???
    D/DT-414, sold from ??? to ???
    D/DT-466, sold from 1975 to 1994
    DT/HT-530E, sold from 1995 to 2003

    For starters, I know:
    DT-360 was sold from 1987 to ?, 160-210 HP?
    DT-466 (A) was sold from 1975 to 1977, HP ratings unknown
    DT-466B was sold from 1978 to 1982, available from 160-210 HP
    DT-466C was sold from 1983 to 1993, available from 165-240 HP (before serial #567491, covering 1983-87 models) or 185-270 HP (after serial #567492, covering 1988-93 models)
    DT-466P (the last mechanically-injected version) was sold from 1993 to 1994, available from 175-230 HP (standard torque) or 195-250 HP (high torque)
    DT-466E (electronic version) sold from 1995 to 2006, available from 175-230 HP (standard torque) or 195-250 HP (high torque)

    The DT-466E is currently being sold as the MaxxForce DT (the larger DT/HT-530E was superseded by the 570E in 2003, which itself is today marketed as the MaxxForce 9). As the MaxxForce DT, HP ratings range from 210-300 HP.

    If anyone has any insights on any of the older engine series, please contribute to this thread.

    Thank you,



    Ben (IHCollector81)
     
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    Re: 300/400/500 Series Six-Cylinder Diesel History

    You may want to add the D-301, an IH built engine available in the 1600's during the '60's and installed by special fleet order in some 1200 pickups(the infamous Chemlawn trucks).

    The 354 is the Perkins 6.354.
     
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    Re: 300/400/500 Series Six-Cylinder Diesel History

    Ben,

    This likely has errors in it since IHC always seemed to have acceptions!!

    There is also a D358 used in like the 786 and????

    The D-354, sold from 1960s-'70s is a Perkins engine IHC (trucks) and Oliver used it.

    AG applications with the American Bosch Pump:
    The DT414 (I don't recall a NA version of the 414) was used in 1066 and 1086 and maybe the 2+2 3388.

    There is a D436/DT436 used in the 966(NA), 986(NA), 1486, 1566/1586, IIRC in the 4166/4186 and I'm not sure on the 1466 (other possible apps: Hydo 100/186 (NA), 2+2 3588/ 1460 Combine, 6588).

    DT466 used in the 4366/4386/1480 (maybe in the 1566).

    Case/IH used the DT?A?466 in the 1680 combines this 466 had the Robert Bosch pump HP rating was 275 or 280 IIRC.

    The DT466 and DTA466 were used in the Loadstar (rare IIRC) and the S series Trucks, but I think only in the 1900 and up, but don't quote me. The S series trucks used the Robert Bosch pump.

    I don't really know about the newer 400 series engines.

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    Re: 300/400/500 Series Six-Cylinder Diesel History

    Thanks so far, I would also appreciate any HP and torque specifications to at least one of all series mentioned.

    ~Ben
     
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    Re: 300/400/500 Series Six-Cylinder Diesel History

    I have 1992 4700 series with a DTA360, 175 HP, Bosch inline
    I have a 1988 S1854 with a DT360 190 HP, Bosch inline
    I have a 1999 4700 with a DT466E, 195 HP fully electronic

    do you need to know anything specific about these models that I can check on first hand?

    The DTA360s were usually used as a step up over v8 diesels for vocational use especially buses and are high rpm units. They feature an air to air intercooler. The HP ratings for these are 165 to 185.
     
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    Re: 300/400/500 Series Six-Cylinder Diesel History

    Welcome aboard, Stu.

    I would like the complete HP and torque specifications as to:

    DT and DTA-360 (all versions)
    DT-466C (the 165-240 HP versions, up to serial #567491)
    DT-466C (the 185-270 HP versions, after serial #567492)

    If you want to, you can send me a PM in regards to these at either vintageben81@comcast.net or edgebenjamin@gmail.com

    Thank you,



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    Re: 300/400/500 Series Six-Cylinder Diesel History

    Geeeze Ben you don't care what you ask for do ya? :)

    You need to kinda look at the big picture to see just how many applications these engines were used in. You have to remember when engines like the 300/400 were designed they were for off road equipment. those began life in the mid '60's and were first used in construction equipment. IH had 3 major divisions then, plus lots of smaller ones. The truck/ bus applications came along later. The various HP and torque for each application, plus sometimes many configurations for each model makes for alot of choices. I could probably narrow it down to a range used for each division which would give you a pretty good idea what was available.

    I've done some of the older stuff in the past, nothing real complete tho.

    Diesel Engines

    http://members.aol.com/EldonMcf/ihdiesel.html

    Diesel Specs Looks like this could use some more info added;)

    http://members.aol.com/eldonmcf/specs.html

    6.9 & 7.3L History

    http://members.aol.com/ihdiesel/69history.html

    Gas engines

    http://ihcinfo.8m.com/ihgas.html

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  8. IHCollector81

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    Re: 300/400/500 Series Six-Cylinder Diesel History

    Eldon,

    I may be able to help you fill in the blanks on some of these, in regards to the IH diesel specifications on your AOL-hosted page:

    NOTE: All HP and torque values given are from first year of sale, these would change over time.

    6.9L (V-8, 420 cu. in., indirect injection)

    1983-1987
    6.9L-155 = HP 155 @ 3300 RPM, Torque 298 @ 1400 RPM
    6.9L-170 = HP 170 @ 3300 RPM, Torque 315 @ 1400 RPM

    7.3L (V-8, 444 cu. in., naturally aspirated except 190 HP version, indirect injection)

    1988-1994
    7.3L-160 = HP 160 @ 3300 RPM, Torque 312 @ 1400 RPM
    7.3L-185 = HP 185 @ 3300 RPM, Torque 350 @ 1400 RPM
    7.3LT-190 = HP 190 @ 3000 RPM, Torque 395 @ 1400 RPM (used only in 1994 Ford F-250HD, F-350, E-250HD and E-350 models)

    7.3L Power Stroke (V-8, 444 cu. in., turbocharged, direct injection)

    1995-2003
    7.3LPS = HP 210 @ 3000 RPM, Torque 425 @ 2000 RPM

    T-444E (V-8, 7.3L, turbocharged)

    1995-2006 (ratings given are from first year of sale, these would have changed over time)
    T-444E-160 = HP 160 @ 2600 RPM, Torque 400 @ 1450 RPM
    T-444E-175 = HP 175 @ 2600 RPM, Torque 420 @ 1450 RPM
    T-444E-190 = HP 190 @ 2600 RPM, Torque 475 @ 1450 RPM
    T-444E-210 = HP 210 @ 2600 RPM, Torque 485 @ 1450 RPM
    T-444E-230 = HP 230 @ 2600 RPM, Torque 605 @ 1450 RPM
    T-444E-250 = HP 250 @ 2600 RPM, Torque 650 @ 1450 RPM

    DV-550 (V-8, 9.0L, naturally aspirated)

    1966-1968 = Information wanted, although the DV-550 was initially available in ratings of 180 and 200 HP (along with the DV-462 rated 160 HP)

    1969-1975 (DV-550B) = Information wanted (this was complimented by the DV-462B up to 1972)

    1976-1979 (D series)
    D-150 = HP 150 @ 3000 RPM, Torque 338 @ 1400 RPM
    D-170 = HP 170 @ 3000 RPM, Torque 355 @ 1400 RPM
    D-190 = HP 190 @ 3000 RPM, Torque 390 @ 1400 RPM

    1980-1987 (9.0L)
    9.0L-165 = HP 165 @ 2800 RPM, Torque 360 @ 1200 RPM
    9.0L-175 (California) = HP 175 @ 2800 RPM, Torque 375 @ 1200 RPM
    9.0L-180 = HP 180 @ 2800 RPM, Torque 401 @ 1200 RPM

    DT/DTA-360 (I-6, 5.9L, turbocharged)

    1988-1994 = Information wanted
    DT-360-160 = HP 160 @ 3000 RPM, Torque 375 @ 1800 RPM
    DT-360-180 = HP 180 @ 3000 RPM, Torque 420 @ 1800 RPM
    DTA-360-190 = HP 190 @ 3000 RPM, Torque 475 @ 1800 RPM
    DTA-360-210 = HP 210 @ 3000 RPM, Torque 485 @ 1800 RPM

    DT-466 (I-6, 7.6L, turbocharged)

    1975-1977 = Information wanted

    1978-1982 (DT-466B)
    DT-466B-160 = HP 160 @ 2600 RPM, Torque 380 @ 1800 RPM
    DT-466B-180 = HP 180 @ 2600 RPM, Torque 421 @ 1800 RPM
    DT-466B-210 = HP 210 @ 2600 RPM, Torque 488 @ 1800 RPM
    DTI-466B-210 (California) = HP 210 @ 2600 RPM, Torque 488 @ 1800 RPM

    1983-1987 (DT-466C)
    DT-466C-165 = HP 165 @ 2600 RPM, Torque 400 @ 1800 RPM
    DT-466C-185 = HP 185 @ 2600 RPM, Torque 430 @ 1800 RPM
    DT-466C-210 = HP 210 @ 2600 RPM, Torque 495 @ 1800 RPM
    DT-466C-225 = HP 225 @ 2600 RPM, Torque 520 @ 1800 RPM
    DT-466C-240 = HP 240 @ 2600 RPM, Torque 600 @ 1800 RPM

    1988-1993 ("improved" DT-466C)
    DT-466C-185 = HP 185 @ 2600 RPM, Torque 430 @ 1800 RPM
    DT-466C-210 = HP 210 @ 2600 RPM, Torque 500 @ 1800 RPM
    DT-466C-225 = HP 225 @ 2600 RPM, Torque 530 @ 1800 RPM
    DT-466C-245 = HP 245 @ 2600 RPM, Torque 610 @ 1800 RPM
    DT-466C-270 = HP 270 @ 2600 RPM, Torque 650 @ 1800 RPM

    1994 (DT-466P, these values also apply to the DT-466E of 1995-2003)
    DT-466P-160 = HP 160 @ 2600 RPM, Torque 400 @ 1400 RPM
    DT-466P-175 = HP 175 @ 2600 RPM, Torque 420 @ 1400 RPM
    DT-466P-190 = HP 190 @ 2600 RPM, Torque 475 @ 1400 RPM
    DT-466P-195 = HP 195 @ 2600 RPM, Torque 520 @ 1400 RPM (high torque rating)
    DT-466P-210 = HP 210 @ 2600 RPM, Torque 485 @ 1400 RPM
    DT-466P-210 = HP 210 @ 2600 RPM, Torque 605 @ 1400 RPM (high torque rating)
    DT-466P-230 = HP 230 @ 2600 RPM, Torque 605 @ 1400 RPM
    DT-466P-230 = HP 230 @ 2600 RPM, Torque 660 @ 1400 RPM (high torque rating)
    DT-466P-250 = HP 250 @ 2600 RPM, Torque 660 @ 1400 RPM

    530E Series (I-6, 8.7L, turbocharged) (1995-2003)
    530E-250 = HP 250 @ 2200 RPM, Torque 800 @ 1300 RPM
    530E-275 = HP 275 @ 2200 RPM, Torque 800 @ 1300 RPM
    530E-275 = HP 275 @ 2200 RPM, Torque 860 @ 1300 RPM (high torque rating)
    530E-275 = HP 275 @ 2200 RPM, Torque 950 @ 1300 RPM (super torque rating)
    530E-300 = HP 300 @ 2200 RPM, Torque 860 @ 1300 RPM
    530E-300 = HP 300 @ 2200 RPM, Torque 950 @ 1300 RPM (high torque rating)
    530E-300 = HP 300 @ 2200 RPM, Torque 1050 @ 1300 RPM (super torque rating)
    530E-320 = HP 320 @ 2200 RPM, Torque 950 @ 1300 RPM (restricted to emergency vehicles only)

    Hope these will help you,



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    Re: 300/400/500 Series Six-Cylinder Diesel History

    Here is some 86 series info.

    Its a bit hard to read, but if you download it and then open it and expand it you can read it.

    The 1586 has the DT436 not the DT466.
     

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    DV/DVT-800 Specifications

    Does anyone here know what the bore and stroke dimensions are as to the DV/DVT-800 series?

    For starters, it displaces 798 cubic inches (13.1 liters).

    The common hp ratings:
    DV-800 (1981 model 4586 4x4 tractor) = 300 shp, 235 dhp
    DVT-800 (1981 model 4786 4x4 tractor) = 350 shp, 258 dhp

    shp = shaft/PTO horsepower
    dhp = drawbar horsepower

    Thank you,



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    Re: DV/DVT-800 Specifications

    Sorry to reply to my own thread, but since I do not have editing privileges at the moment, please bear with me.

    For all those in the know, the bore and stroke for the DV800 series is 5.31" x 4.5".

    But, still, isn't it a shame they never used it for their on-highway applications, where it would compete with the likes of the Detroit 8V-71 and the Cummins V903?
     
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    Re: DV/DVT-800 Specifications

    Per my 33rd edition Motor manual the DVT 800 (IIRC the 4566 and 4586 were turbo'd) these specs would be for the 4586 and 4786:
    DVT - 800 HP 300 @ 2600 rpm and 725 FT LBs @ 1800 rpm
    DVT - 800 HP 350 @ 2600 rpm and 825 FT LBs @ 1800 rpm

    The DVT - 800 in the 66/86 series tractors was bolted to a truck 9 or 10 speed trany with a SAE flywheel housing, so they could have been used in a truck. I want to say that there were some Paystar 5000's with the DVT 800, but I'm not at all sure.

    Note that the Motor Manuals are not 100% error free.

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    Carey,

    Thank you for the information. Now that I see both of those figures, they go right up there with the Cummins V/VT-903 series.

    I know the NA (natural aspiration) V903 had three different HP/torque ratings available, in 280/645, 300/694 and 320/735. The VT903 version came as either 335 HP/795 lb-ft or 350 HP/860 lb-ft.

    The bore for the DV/DVT800 series is 5.315" while the stroke is 4.5".

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    DV-573 Series and Other IH V8 Diesel Tidbits

    Hi,

    NOTE: If this thread is to be moved to the 300/400/500/800 Series thread, then please do so.

    The DV-573 Series: I am surprised that no one, except me, has mentioned anything about the DV-573 series diesel engine. It could have been had as naturally aspirated or turbocharged. What I know about it that it carries a square bore (meaning a 4.5" bore and 4.5" stroke). Because of that, it shares its 4.5" cylinder bore diameter with the DV-462 and DV-550 series diesels.

    I believe it had started production around the same time as the DV-462 and DV-550, and like those two, received an upgrade to the DV/DVT-573B in 1969. The DT-466 turbo six replaced the DV-573B series for 1975 in on-highway applications.

    The D-429 six-cylinder diesel series shared the same bore and stroke values.

    Other IH V8 Diesel tidbits: The DV-462 was a dieselized version of the LV-461 engine, just as the DV-550 was to the LV-549 engine.

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    Re: DV/DVT-800 Specifications

    The '75 Sales Data book shows the V-800(turbo only) available in Transtar conventional, cabover, and Paystar applications with 3 ratings from 300hp to 350hp.
     
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    Jim,

    What are the torque ratings for each of those DVT-800s? I know so far the 300 HP version cranks out 725 ft-lbs and the 350 HP version 825 ft-lbs, but what's the one in-between the first and last?
     
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    Here is a web page that is a "must see" for some unique IH info:

    http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/espinosa4.htm

    Some specs, brochures, articles about the V-800 in truck applications about 2/3 way down the pages....check out some of his other stuff too!
     
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    Cool find Kurt!!

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