1980's Jeep wagoneer Axles Scout 800 Swap

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  1. Rembrant88

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    I did some searching but couldn't find much on the subject. If someone were to provide a link to a build than that will help. Could be I missed something in the search.

    So I might pick up my buddies 1966 scout 800. I thought it was an 80 but turns out it's the same year as mine. I was considering going with his 6.2 diesel swap idea but if I get it I'm most likely going to go with a ford 302 and e4od transmission. I bought a 93' bronco to swap the guts to from my wrecked 86' bronco with a 6.9 idi. So I'm going to have a 302 with 147,000 miles on it as well as a good transmission lying around. Now of coarse that leaves me with a drivers side drop problem. So my idea is to pull a drivers drop dana 44 out of an early 80's wagoneer and naturally the rear as well. I'm aware of what is involved with a scout 2 dana 44 swap but not jeep 44's. Anybody know what difficulties are involved here? Any special problems with the swap? Thanks.

    I'm sorry if ford and jeep stuff in a scout bothers anybody. I'm just trying to save the scout from possibly being crushed, so I think it is a good alternative :sweatdrop:.
     
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    The waggy rear is soa and the front is sua, spring hangers/ perches need changed. If you can think and weld it ain't that hard. The waggy width is nice under an 800\80 and flat tops with Chevy brakes
     
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    Thanks for the reply. Luckily I can think, and weld. I've never tried both at the same time though, could be messy...

    I know that on the scout 2 dana 44 front end the passenger side perch is a machined part of the gear housing. Is it the same on the wagoneer? If so than I might just do the same ford coil spring front suspension I'm doing on my other scout by buying the bronco wedges and forget messing with that perch. I seem to have a lot of ford parts around for that kind of thing.
     
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    Pretty sure the Waggy axle has the perch as part of the casting, I know the pass drop versions do.

    Off hand I can't remember the spring spacving on a Waggy but IIRC it's pretty close.
     
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    There is a kit that's bolt on to make the FSJ axles SOA. I think it's TTFabworks
     
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    With the E4OD trans and it's Borg Warner t case, you rear driveshaft will be about 16inches long. I wouldn't consider a SOA practical with that short a shaft.
     
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    My plan is to use a ford np205 that I have in the garage. I can't remember how much shorter it is than the BG t case, 7" maybe? But it should be enough to make up for the extra length of the e4od wouldn't you think? I can always keep the front spring under and make the rear spring under. I don't care either way because my tire size will be 30's and it's not going to be doing anything serious off road.
     
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    Pretty sure the 205 will gain some length on the shaft. But if you don't plan a lift even the short shaft should be ok. It's the angles of the u joints that get to be a problem and the angles grow faster with a shorter shaft per any amount of lift.

    I don't see anything wrong with either case as long as you keep em full of oil.
     
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    205 cases are clockable and there's no need to stay driver's side drop
     
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    Clockable yes but not flipable. Whichever side the output is on is the side it stays on though you can tweak the overall height.
     
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    I hope I don't need to clock it if I go with the 205, but it's good to know I can. I'm thinking the 208 might have a problem hitting the frame. I guess I'll find out. One thing I like about going with the 208 is the lower gear and ease of setting up shift linkage. And not having to build a support, that's nice too.
     
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    208 is considerably smaller than 205. Dodge or Chev (pre '88) 205 should be RH drop.
     
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    My 65 80 has a 318/NP435/NP203 combo in it. The tcase is tight to the frame but the 203 is a huge case. 208 should fit fne.
     

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