1973 Travelall 1010 - Family Cruiser Build.

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  1. java230

    java230 Farmall Cub

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    Oh also, every fan belt I got was wrong..... I just ordered off Rock auto, they were cheap at least....
    Well one works from WP to alt, but I don't think it goes there.... Likely AC?

    Anyone have correct part numbers? 392 with PS and AC.
     
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    I have all the numbers.....

    GATES 7612 - alternator off crank and water pump (I used 7603 which is one size shorter. I wanted to bring in the alternator closer as it was too close to the AC lines.)
    GATES 9530 - AC off water pump only, extra wide
    GATES 7525 - PS pump off crank
     
  3. java230

    java230 Farmall Cub

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    Thanks a ton, those are all different numbers than what I have..... I think the one that I have between the water pump and alternator at the moment, is probably for the AC. It was the only one that I could make fit anywhere

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    How many pulleys do you have? If you have three, then the first two (or just the first one if you're running single alternator belt) are for the crank, water pump and alternator. #3 outermost on the water pump is for the AC only. #3 outermost on the crank is for the PS only. YMMV of course as many setups are unique. This is how mine is. Pay attention to your AC pulleys as they are wider than the others. Take some pics and share.
     
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    On the water pump I believe there are three larger diameter and one smaller, I don't remember other than that and my pictures aren't helping.

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    java230 Farmall Cub

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    Wp pulleys [​IMG]

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    java230 Farmall Cub

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    Got the belts, the PS to crank was too short. But I had one that worked.

    Did two on the alt, but the one closest to the block is loose, pulleys are different perhaps?

    Started the truck, and on shut down the fan came flying off.... Like everything the PO touched it was finger tight.... Hopefully thr rad is ok. One tube got whacked good. Tightened as best I could with channel locks. How tight does that need to be? Locktite?

    Got the new trans gasket, RTV or no? [​IMG]

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    Maybe the PS pump is served by the smaller pulleys on the crank and water pump? Outermost water pump pulley looks correct for AC.
     
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    java230 Farmall Cub

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    One of the other belts I had fit crank to PS.


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    Probably going to confuse things but ...IIRC I've seen two set ups for the P/S. Early D series with round pump ran the p/s off the water pump ( w/ air pump as needed.) Later D / tear drop ran off the crank.
     
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    I believe mine would be the "round" pump.

    this is how short the 7525 is off the crank.
    [​IMG]
     
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    The belt should run off the water pump only. A 73 most likely calls for the PS belt w/air pump. (small pic) Don't have the number but without the air pump , a belt that fits 69-71 will work. (large pic)

    [​IMG][​IMG]
     
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    I see, any reason not to run it off the crank?

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    Guess it could as long as a crank pulley lines up, it's about the same diameter as the water pump pulley and the PS pump adjustment still works with the change in angle.
     
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    It all seems kosher as far as I can tell? I'll double-check the angle but it seemed fine

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    Did you install the transmission gasket yet? I think I'm doing mine Saturday. I am going to install dry (no RTV). We'll see what happens!
     
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    Not yet.... I crashed on my bike and threw a hip out... Not able to slide under the truck right now.

    But I'm thinking dry too!

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    Ouch! Sorry to hear about your injury!!! I'll update things over on my build thread.
     
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    Sooo I may have been rushing.... Went to top off the trans to see if it was still leaking. Grabbed what I thought was a bit of a quart of teams fluid. I forgot I used that bottle to bleed the fuel system.....

    Soooo how bad is a few oz of gas in trans fluid???? I dropped the pan, can I just let it flash off a few days? Just a hint of gas stink.

    Fliter looks new at least. [​IMG]

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    Did you start it up after you noticed what you did ? If not then, just let ot sit an drip. But i think id change the filter. At least.
     

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