1973 Travelall 1010 - Family Cruiser Build.

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  1. Jeff Jamison

    Jeff Jamison Lives in an IH Dealership

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    With no exterior lights it might not be drawing enough amps to flash.
     
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  2. java230

    java230 Farmall Cub

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    Could be. I'll pull the hazard knob out and see if it goes off.

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  3. MrKenmore

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    Good stuff! Nice update. I think we probably did our trans cooler new lines within a a few days of one another. I replaced my trans pan with a SME-1009 Summit deep pan and a new WIX filter and gasket. I'm watching the front. Looks like it may be leaking a little. Did you consider running hard lines for the fuel supply and return? I used NiCopp. Final connections are rubber FI rated hose. I considered running rubber the entire way and even nylon but eventually decided on the NiCopp.
     
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    java230 Farmall Cub

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    I did consider hard lines, but Rubber was just easier. I got the expensive high pressure stuff....

    Yeah I saw your pan.... If I have to pull mine I may go that way too.... too bad I just filled the damn thing too. It was leaking just from the front being on jack stands, so I assume its going to get a lot worse once it gets started....
     
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    Once I pulled the old pan, I figured out that I was only holding fluid at the gasket line!!! Wouldn't matter how much I added. Leak was real bad. Hopefully things get better. I tightened up the front bolts recently where it was leaking.
     
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    I bought the same "reusable" gasket you linked, its coming this weekend, hopefully I can salvage some of the fluid!

    And @Jeff Jamison was right on, the hazard switch killed the dash light!



    So it runs! And sounds pretty damn good too IMO.

    But the key still wont start it.

    Annnnd My fuel filler is no good. It just doesn't take fuel.

    Its pretty flat, filling with just a gas can was too fast. It filled the filler tube and took awhile to run down into the tank. I am using the OE Ford roll over valve, its a 3/8" line for vent. Too small? Its just to atmosphere, but I figured it was factory it ought to work....

    Also since the tank is technically "sideways" vs how it would have been installed, it took 5 ish gallons for the fuel pump to be able to even get fuel, I thought it would have been in the low spot in the bottom of the tank, but who knows. I did bent the bottom jacking it up also. Maybe it was just first fill anf the sock needs some soaking to drop?



    Ill take any input on tanks.... I am about to either go back to stock, cut the valence for a filler at the tailgate, or cut the floor out and drop a fuel cell in.....



    Filler going into the tank (after fixing many leaks...

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    Most ghetto map sensor install? :D I just wanted to make it make noises.....

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  7. MrKenmore

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    Where's the top of the roll over vent? It should be higher than the fill. That big flat run may be the problem. I read here on BP where some Scout 80/800 guys sleeved the big line with a separate fill tube. The effect is the big fill tube acts as a vent while filling.
     
  8. java230

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    It's just vented to Atmosphere, hangs over the side of the tank.

    The sleeve idea is interesting.

    I think the flat section is not helping any

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    I think you're venting (or lack of) during the filling is the problem. You have this big huge hole on the top of the tank. Is that where the current vent goes? Try running a much bigger line (1/2" or better) and bring it all the way to the fill door. Tee it into the big line. What direction is the rollover valve? Maybe its shut.
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    The rollover is in the big hole in the middle. It fits with a grommet. It's the factory setup for the tank.

    Thats the only vent.

    The line I used is what fits on the valve. Why would making it go up higher make any difference?

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    More so for the finished install......Imagine you fill your tank......the fill tube gets filled as does the tank...but now the filled level of gas is higher than the the top of the vent. The fuel will spill out of the vent. Ideally, the setup is this:
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    I still think the small vent is a cause of your current issues.
     
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    The whole point of the rollover valve is to close when liquid hits it.

    I can see the point if its just a hose.

    But I used all the OE parts for a reason, it "should" work, the only part that is weird is my filler angle as far as I can tell. There are no other provisions on the tank fro venting.... Nor are any usually done in the OE install I think.
     
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    I did find this in a YT video. Not sure thats factory, but the size is stepped up right after the valve.

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    MJlogan88 Farmall Cub

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    I ran my vent out of the GM rollover valve at first with 3/8" line. Same story with yours- flat section of filler hose and would not take gas from a pump except at a trickle. Figured it was the flat section but after trying a separate 5/8" vent it now takes fuel at full blast from the pump.

    Might not be your issue, but for me it was the answer
     
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    Thanks, did you just clamp the oversized tube on?

    I'll have to try it. It's hard to get to though!

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    Nice picture. If that little thing is the doo-hickey, I don't think you'll ever get it to act as a vent while filling. There's just not enough free air.
     
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    That's what I don't understand. That's the factory set up?

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    The GM sending unit had a couple extra ports on it that I had capped off initially so I just ran a hose off the biggest one to give it a shot.

    Come to think of it, if that tank is off an '80s-'90s vintage Ford, they most likely used the tube inside the tube filler as described above. All the fords I owned during that vintage had that pain in the ass setup

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    Yes, but I bet the stock configuration has the fill being a straight shot down into the tank. Maybe?
     
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    Shorter for sure. F150's

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