Now what?

[T-Ruxx]

O.K., got the rig home, now what? Greg

[scoutkid]

oh come on now, we need more detail than that. auto/manual? DD or trail rig? come on, we need the good stuff! Of course im gonna have to tell you to throw a 500 caddy in it, a T-19 (if it doesn't already have one) some 3/4 ton axles, SOA, 35+ in tires and wheel the wee out of it..... my opinion is not biased in any way. most others will say: 'a scout 345 has a ton of low end blah blah blah blah blah blah blah......' keep it original.... blah blah blah ' but all you really need to do is decide what kinda 'fun' YOU want to have, and build accordingly.




(J/K about the blah blah guys :D )


have fun, sk

[John Donnelly]

Originally posted by scoutkid
oh come on now, we need more detail than that. auto/manual? DD or trail rig? come on, we need the good stuff! Of course im gonna have to tell you to throw a 500 caddy in it, a T-19 (if it doesn't already have one) some 3/4 ton axles, SOA, 35+ in tires and wheel the wee out of it..... my opinion is not biased in any way. most others will say: 'a scout 345 has a ton of low end blah blah blah blah blah blah blah......' keep it original.... blah blah blah ' but all you really need to do is decide what kinda 'fun' YOU want to have, and build accordingly.




(J/K about the blah blah guys :D )


have fun, sk

Kid,

T-Ruxx's rig is a classic. He has already been brainwashed by our "blah, blah, blah" ;)

54' IH 4x4 pickup.

Not your usual Scout :D

Keep on Binderin',

John

[scoutkid]

well way to keep me in the loop guys!! still nothin wrong with a 500 caddy tho...:D

[lonnie dicus]

when starting a new project, i always like to begin with the motor. if i can get it to turn over and then, usually with a little love and money, start it i find i have a lot more energy and willingness to spend more $$$.

also, i would be reluctant to get to carried away with modifications/alterations. it is what it is and any attempt to dramatically alter it's use will be both time consuming and expensive.

[John Donnelly]

Lonnie has done more car projects than any of us, and his advice in this area shouldn't be challenged.

So, lets try and get something running in there. Last I heard, Granite Motorsports had a running and READY SD220 the might be up for grabs.

The SD220 is a good motor, torquey, and reliable.

I would also invest in the Service guide from Binder Books in Tigard. I "believe" that it is CTS-211, but it might need some supplements to make it correct for your truck, namely the 4x4 section. Mine is lacking that section.

But, you can borrow my CTS-211 if you promise not to dirty it up too much ;)

Then I think we need an official IHSTO "fact-finding mission" of a few of the big IHC gearheads, and some thought fluid, and a bench racing session at your place to sort out all the goodies, and get'er done!

You need to be wheelin' come summer!

Keep on Binderin',

John

[Lyle Wiese]

OK, Greg, you asked. While the advice from Lonnie and John is right on, the next thing to do, as you well know, is to go back over and get the engine and tranny out of his shop. Then you can get together with the IHC gearheads and have the conference.

Now, with that said, what is "thought fluid"? :confused:

All kidding aside Greg, your truck is going to be a great rig when you get it all together.

Have fun with your project. I know I do with mine.

Lyle

[T-Ruxx]

Seeing how it seems to be hybrid of a 54 1/2 ton sheet metal, and a 3/4 ton frame/running gear, I hope I don't have to get 2 different year manuals.
As for an engine, I like Johns idea of figuring out what's there, and what is of use. The P/O said he was going to swap blocks,and the old engine was sitting there in one piece. It might be as simple? as a rebuild kit, and swapping parts. Then again, I'm kind of mechanically reclined, so it might not be so simple.
I don't suppose that I could interest anyone in a 220 rebuilt work party. I have to get the engine/tranny and the rest of the parts another weekend, later, Greg

[John Donnelly]

Originally posted by Lyle Wiese
Now, with that said, what is "thought fluid"? :confused:

Lyle

Oh Lyle...... ;)

Beer man, BEER!

Binderin',

John

[T-Ruxx]

P.S. , my goal is to have it road worthy by opening day for fishing , or at the latest, the club camping trip. the conference idea is a good one, I'll get all the parts rounded up, and post a call to arms down the road. later, Greg

[Lyle Wiese]

Greg,

The best thing for work parties is to first check the IHSTO calendar or check with one of the officers to so you don't conflict with something already scheduled and then just pick a day and time and post it here. This is no gaurantee of who and how many will show up, but it does get the word out. I tried doing one on the Saturday of the 4th of July weekend and even offered lunch, but ended up eating by ourselves. In other words, holiday weekends are not a good idea.

There is plenty of mechanical ability available in this club and everyone is willing to help out in one form or another.

Go for it.

Lyle

[T-Ruxx]

Thanks Lyle. My appologies to scoutkid for not posting the info. later, Greg

[Lyle Wiese]

Beer man, BEER!

Thought so.;)

Lyle

[binderbound]

Lonnie is very right. Start from the inside out. Engine, tranny, axles, and out. But when you are waiting for parts, or low on funds, clean everything!If it has a permanent parking spot, then pull an axle and clean it. Dont tear into its guts unless you the money for bearings or experiance to do gear set up. Having a clean housing will be easier to work on later or haul to the gear shop. Most of the engine and tranny stuff is loose already so it will be easy to work on. Take the transfercase out so you can get at it too, for cleaning purposes. Careful, its very heavy. Clean parts make for happy parts!

Thanks
Dan
"Scout out America"

[T-Ruxx]

Thanks,I've learned my lesson about tearing things apart, the 56 chevy truck is spread out all over! I'm able to borrow a pressure washer from my stepfather, will that wash off the grease, or is it even worth a try. Later,Greg

[binderbound]

Be careful using high pressure on axles and tranny's. You dont want to blast water through seals then let the parts sit for a month or two until you get to them. Unfourtunatly by hand is the best way to do it. Some good wire brushes, a couple gallons of castrol super clean (purple jug), lots of rags, and maybe a putty knife if its really thick. Like on the transfer case. The pressure washer would be good on the body, frame, bed.

Good luck
Dan
"Scout out America"

[T-Ruxx]

Where might I find a rebuild kit for a 220, would NAPA

[John Donnelly]

Originally posted by T-Ruxx
Where might I find a rebuild kit for a 220, would NAPA

Yes, NAPA would have it, and quite possibly, International.

The SD220 and 240 were used in some very large vehicles, not just the light line. Also, CASE/IH has parts too, as the SD motors were used in irrigation pumps, combines, and various pieces of Farm equipment.

Keep on Binderin',

John

[lonnie dicus]

reading over this post reminds me how lucky we are to be part of a club where so many are not only helpful but knowledgeable as well. the above will serve you well in getting started and how you might want to sequence your project. however while it is great to get help on figuring what to do, it is, in my opinion, far more helpful to surround yourself with like minded enthusiasts. there is nothing like club energy and support to keep you going.best of luck.